Blog Anti-Islam? Anti-Malay?
Pagi ini saya telah melawat blog syazelle dan tertarik dengan komen dari Habib mengenai blog dan islam (maaf, tajuk post syazelle bukan nie ya)
Saya petik komen beliau:
?Assalamualaikum fellow bloggers,
syaz dah promote blog member2 dier,sayer ni dier tak anggap member pon,x pe la,
anyway sebagai pengunjung setia blog ni, saya bukan nak promote blog,tapi nak bagi tahu tentang salah satu blog yang diwujudkan bagi menyemai idea menghapuskan kewujudan ISLAM di muka bumi ini.Kandungannya agak melampau.Penuh dengan racism dan hatred.
Ader jugak mereka kutuk negara kita malaysia pasal isu murtad Lina Joy.
Mereka ini sebenarnya yang perlu kita bendung.Mereka mengaku konon penganut setia agama Kristian dan Yahudi serta menghina Nabi Muhammad dan Allah.
Tetapi mereka sendiri tidak mengamalkan apa yg terkandung dalam agama Kristian,mereka lakukan seks di luar nikah dan bunuh orang sesuka hati.
Mereka ini menggunakan agama untuk menyemai kebencian.
Blog ini sangat bahaya kerana ia boleh menggugat akidah seorang Islam.
Mereka dengan begitu cerdiknya mempersoalkan kepincangan yang berlaku dalam umat islam hari ini.
Mereka mempersoalkan kemiskinan,seruan jihad daripada Tuhan untuk menentang kafir dan pelbagai lagi masalah yang melanda umat Islam.
Saya menyeru kepada anda dan diri saya sendiri supaya kita muhasabah balik apa yang berlaku sekarang ini kepada umat islam.
http://pedestrianinfidel.blogspot.com/
Saya juga nak memperkenal anda kepada satu blog anti-Melayu yang dibuat oleh Cina.Memang saudara akan lagi sakit hati kalau baca
http://maobi.blogspot.com/ ?
Apabila melawat blog yang diberikan oleh habib iaitu http://maobi.blogspot.com/ dan http://pedestrianinfidel.blogspot.com/, timbul perasaan marah dan geram pada perasaan saya. Ya, sangatlah marah!
Namun saya baca satu persatu post terutama diblog maobi kerana blog tersebut ditulis oleh orang Malaysia sendiri tetapi cina. Dan bila diperhatikan dibahagian komen blog tersebut, tertera nama murtad_girl. MasyaAllah, lihatlah betapa beraninya dia!
Saya kira golongan sebegini sukar diubati lagi. Bila ada blog yang saya lawati menjatuhkan Islam, InsyaAllah saya akan post kan komen tetapi bila terjadi perang mulut maka saya gunakan konsep ?Aku dengan agamaku, kamu dengan agamu?
Hal ini juga menyedarkan saya bahawa penggunaan blog pada masa kini juga boleh mendorong kepada hal-hal yang tidak elok. Ini berbalik kepada konsep, niat dan cara. Niat kita hendaklah ikhlas,benar dan wajib juga menggunakan cara yang betul.
Blog boleh menjadi senjata kepada golongan kafir tetapi jangan lupa bahawa kita, orang Islam juga mampu berbuat demikian. Caranya?
Saya berpendapatan perlu wujudnya satu ruangan khas disetiap blog untuk sembang isu semasa dan diletakkan isu mengenai isu-isu keIslaman atau isu semasa tidak kira apa-pun konsep blog: tidak kira blog anda adalah blog tutorial, blog bisnes, blog video mahupun blog bergambar. Apabila jumpa sahaja post berkaitan, terus reply diblog sendiri menggunakan fungsi backlink(jika blogspot). Beri ruang kepada anda bersuara. Saya tidak menggalakkan komen diblog tersebut kerana dengan satu klik, komen anda boleh terpadam.
Timbul juga kesedaran di hati saya untuk menyertai komuniti blog islam. Saya pasti ada dan saya akan cari, inikan dunia serba canggih. Jika tidak mampu berikan komen sekalipun, saya akan baca post mereka. Itupun jadilah.
Bagaimana dengan reaksi anda?
p.s: post tentang 14 cara mendapatkan pelawat siri-3 akan dipublishkan pada petang nnt. InsyaAllah :)
Update 2009: Comment Section closed. No more comments accepted.
My blog is dangerous to Muslims, you say? I’m flattered, and deeply honoured. The truth is very dangerous to Islam, indeed.
But racist? Is Islam a race? And anti-Malay? There’s nothing wrong with Malays per se. If Malays can be allowed to break free of the prison of Islam that they are forever chained to by accident of birth, Malays can be fine, upstanding, non-jihadists like many (maybe even most) ‘infidels’ are.
I look forward to having more Muslims reading our stuff over at Pedestrian Infidel. Hopefully, insh’allah, they will learn the truth from us.
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Yusoff Reply:
January 25th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
you come from slimy sperm and will be a dead, smelly filthy corpse one day. you can’t control your life and destiny. you are being controlled by a hidden force you tried very hard to deny. you came to earth naked, bathed in blood from that filthy hole. that is the truth brother.
why are you so arrogant, ignorant and egoistic about. get to know yourself. go find a religion.
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Infidel the Great Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 8:15 pm
your 1st and 2nd paragraph are totally unrelated, as we all know, islam never teach any science, muhammad said the sperm is produce between the ribs and the backbone, the sperm will combine with a clot of blood to become a fetus, beside these, muhammad also ‘teach’ us sun set in muddy spring, bla bla bla… then y we need to get a religion? only by having a religion then only we can learn science??? who is ignorant? who is hidding his/her head in the sand???
y we need to know ourself? as a slave of the god? what we can do for him? just by praying 5 times a day? LOL… actually the god is serving for us! look at all the creation he did, it is to serve the human being! can you use 1 single brain cell to think about that???
wat is the truth? the truth is something we need to use our brain to think, to search, to proof with evidence. it is not something we believe blindly, without evidence, without logic, without explanation (only god knows y….) read the quran by yourself, it is full of contradiction, violent, funny stuff, error in science, no human’s right, women’s right…
it is always painful to start to know the truth. and the only way to get to the truth is to use our brain, to think, to question, to search, to read, and to understand… but sadly islam told you stop question because question will make you loss your faith. yes it is, islam cant stand on the truth. once you start question, you will know that islam are false religion…
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hohoho..i dont know how you find this post. Maybe you have a translator indeed after found this blog. :) but i will reply in Malay..haha
Islam adalah satu rahmat, dan saya bersyukur dilahirkan dalam Islam. Hanya mereka yang tidak mengenal Islam dengan hati akan berpaling tadah.
inshallah? Bermaksud kebenaran dari Allah. Do you mean you want blessed from Allah when you are not faithful with Allah? Strange is it? Please dont miss used those word.
Apabila bercakap mengenai hal keagamaan, tidak kira Islam, Kristian dan sebagainya, pastinya ada golongan yang murtad dari agama asal mereka. Adakah ini bererti Islam itu salah bila terjadi demikian?
Jika dari Kristian sekalipun, how many that really apply the religion on their daily life? Not all right? maybe too little compared to the Muslims that applies the religion
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Islam is no miracle at all. It’s an atrocity, the greatest con game of all time. I thank Whoever on a daily basis that I wasn’t born into the spiritual and intellectual prison that is Islam.
I used “inshallah” in an ironic sense. I guessed that you, like other Muslims, would be irony and humour impaired, and you proved me right. Me, I have absolutely no allegiance whatsoever to the warlike Arabian Moon God that you call “allah”.
Islam is the only world “religion” that calls for the death of anyone who tries to leave it. Criticising any aspect of Islam is also punishable by death in much of, probably most of Dar-al-Islam. Get into a religious argument with a Christian about his religion, and he’ll most likely pray for you. Get into an argument with a Moslem about Islam, and you’re more likely to end up with threats of bodily harm, or worse.
If more Moslems applied their aggressive faith on a daily basis to their daily lives, there would be a lot more dead Moslems and infidels all over the world.
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Yusoff Reply:
January 25th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
who created you?
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Infidel the Great Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 8:20 pm
i think alien created us. wat say u?
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I just got one article for you my friend:
John (J) : Dr Danial (DD), I always wonder why prophet Muhammad taught Muslims to become terrorists. He should teach people to be kind and tolerant.
DD : Actually John, your concept about Islam and Muhammad is wrong. Completely wrong. Prophet Muhammad never taught his followers to be terrorists. On the contrary, it was the Muslims who were being terrorised by the non Muslims in the era of prophet Muhammad. For 13 years in Mecca, after being prophet of Islam, Muhammad and the Muslims were harassed and tortured by the Quraisyites. The companions of the prophet, for example, Yasser and Sumayyyah, were killed. The others, for example, Bilal and Ammar, were tortured. And yet the Muslims at that time were asked to be patient and persevere. They were not allowed to fight and raise arms against the non Muslims. Once prophet Muhammad went to Taif to preach about Islam. He got a cold reception from the people there. There cursed him and as if it was not enough, they threw stones and filth towards him. When the Archangel Jibril came to him to get his permission to demolish the people of Taif, prophet Muhammad said, “Leave them alone. Yes, today the people ignored my message. But I pray that their progeny will be a different group of people. I pray that they will accept Islam.” Are these acts and words of terrorism John?
John : But there are verses in the Quran that promote terrorism. These verses instigate the Muslims to kill the non Muslims all over the world. If I am not mistaken, the meaning of one of the verses is, “And kill the non Muslims whereever they are.”
DD : Oh, you are quoting the verses from the Quran. If that’s the case, you should allow me to quote a few verses from your Bible and Talmud. In Numbers 31:17-18, it was stated, Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man intimately. But all the girls who have not known man intimately, spare for yourselves. And in Luke 19:26-27, I tell you that to everyone who has, more shall be given, but from the one who does not have, even what he does have shall be taken away. But these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slay them in my presence. How about one more verse from Matthew 10:34-35, Do not think that I have come to send peace on earth. I did not come to send peace, but a sword. I am sent to set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. To me these verses are very dangerous. They can instigate people especially the christians to do acts of terrorism!
And please allow me also to quote from the holy book of the Jews, that is the Talmud. I suppose you know that the Talmud is Judaism’s holiest book. Its authority takes precedence over the Old Testament in Judaism. It is stated in Sanhedrin 58b, If a heathen (i.e. non-Jew) hits a Jew, the gentile must be killed. And In Sanhedrin 57a, When a Jew murders a gentile (Cuthean), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep. And John, have you read a book written by A. Hoffman II and Alan R. Critchley titled Judaism’s Strange God?
John : Err, no.
DD : Never mind. A. Hoffman II and Alan R. Critchley recently did a thorough research on the contents of the Talmud and what they found surprised them. In their book, Judaism’s Strange God, they said, ‘On the surface, it seems that genocide is advocated by the Talmud. In the Minor Tractates, Soferim 15, Rule 10, there is a saying by Rabbi Simon ben Yohai, Tob shebe goyyim harog, which means, even the best of the gentiles (i.e. non-Jews) should all be killed. This passage is taken from the original Hebrew of the Babylonian Talmud as quoted by the 1907 Jewish Encyclopaedia. Israelis annually take part in a national pilgrimage to the grave of Simon ben Yohai, to honour this rabbi who advocated the extermination of non-Jews.’ John, you will agree with me that these verses look very, very violent indeed….
John : But Dr. Danial, I think these verses, especially from the Bible, are taken out of context. If you read just the text it may look very violent. But if we read the text in relation with its context, it may be different..
DD : Oh, now you are being very sensible, John. You want the Muslims to read the Bible and interprete it within its context. Good, and I fully agree with you. But, can’t you do the same thing to the Quran? Can’t you interprete verses of the Quran within its context? As it is now you are not doing that. You are interpreting the Quran according to your own whims and fancies and that hurts me and the Muslims. By the way, the so called violent verses of the Quran that you mentioned earlier were revealed to prophet Muhammad specifically during the time of war. And war in Islam is an exception and not the norm. The Muslims went to war to defend their honour and country. Look at what Allah said in chapter The Cow 2:190, which means, “Fight against those who fight against you in the way of Allah, but do not transgress, for Allah does not love transgressors.”
It should be emphasized that so many revelations in the Holy Quran came down to provide guidance to Prophet Muhammad and the Muslims based on what they were confronting at that time. Therefore, it is important to understand and know the historic context of the revelations for a proper understanding of these verses. The Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him, was the peace maker of his time. He endured torture, hunger and the killing of his loved ones by his enemies, but he remained a merciful person. In his most startling conquest of Mecca, only four people died. And do you know what prophet Muhammad did to the prisoners of war after the conquest of Mecca? He asked the haughty chiefs of the Quraisyites, “What do you expect at my hands?” They answered, “Mercy O generous brother.” And the prophet said, “Be it so, you are free.” They are free, John. No vengeance being inflicted upon them. No Guantanamo-like prison for them (smile). This is the teaching of Muhammad. And you are telling me that Muhammad taught Muslims to become terrorists?
John : Yeah, I need to learn more about Muhammad….
Sources:http://www.formulacemerlang.com/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=30
Please ask him, and you will get every explanation from him. InsyaAllah.
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If you win when use your fact with him, i’ll find another person maybe.
Why i refer you to him? Because he have more knowledge from me.
But from the articel above, you should take time to counter back isnt it? :)
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I agree with what the anti-jihadist said, the truth is very dangerous to Islam. We at Pedestrian Infidel are honored. See, we wouldn’t be blogging if it weren’t for the truth, Islam stands in our way and we will do anything to destroy it.
It seems your Dr. Danial isn’t much of a genius anyway. It seems that most of his information about Islam comes from what his dad told him while wrapping diapers around him. I will, shortly, be writing a post in which I will discuss the dialog between your Dr. Danial and that seemingly fictional character, John.
One point though, you said Dr. Danial has more knowledge than you do. Did it ever occur to you to question these ‘knowledgable’ people? Keep in mind, they’re humans, lying ones at that, and not God!
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Here’s a quote
If you are so insecure in your God that another person’s denial will shake your faith, then you are faithless. If your religion is so weak that it requires the enslavement of its believers, then it cannot be the truth, it cannot be perfection, and it cannot be complete.
Surely, Muslims would have nothing to fear by reading my blog, if they are members of the perfect religion.
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agree with what the anti-jihadist said, the truth is very dangerous to Islam. We at Pedestrian Infidel are honored. See, we wouldn’t be blogging if it weren’t for the truth, Islam stands in our way and we will do anything to destroy it.
It seems your Dr. Danial isn’t much of a genius anyway. It seems that most of his information about Islam comes from what his dad told him while wrapping diapers around him. I will, shortly, be writing a post in which I will discuss the dialog between your Dr. Danial and that seemingly fictional character, John.
One point though, you said Dr. Danial has more knowledge than you do. Did it ever occur to you to question these ‘knowledgable’ people? Keep in mind, they’re humans, lying ones at that, and not God!
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Have fun,
Take care,
Shalom,
Avenging Apostate.
http://www.pedestrianinfidel.blogspot.com
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If you are so insecure in your God that another person’s denial will shake your faith, then you are faithless. If your religion is so weak that it requires the enslavement of its believers, then it cannot be the truth, it cannot be perfection, and it cannot be complete.
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Yusoff Reply:
January 25th, 2009 at 8:25 pm
where do you come from, what are you doing here and where are you going? is it just to eat, sleep, eat, sleep, have sex, eat, sleep, fulfill you lust like dogs and pigs day in day out?
differentiate yourself from animals. get to know your purpose in life and find your creator. by the way, the creator doesn’t owe you anything!
find your creator! nothing happens just like that because of mother nature. mother nature hasn’t said anything!show me one book mother nature wrote or passed down.
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Infidel the Great Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 8:44 pm
so in the eye of islam, the meaning of life is the above mentioned, plus jihad, pray, spreading hatred, sodomi, married with young women, married 4 women… and i really cant think of any good stuff that teach in islam anymore… muslim ppl never eat? sleep? have sex? sure u have, and u call that fulfill lust like dogs and pigs? hahahaha… yusoff, you are a funny guy… wat is the purpose of life to the muslim? to pray all the time to allah so that you can enter heaven where wine flows like rivers and 72 virgins will serve you all the time? but here on earth we already have plenty of wines, virgins, plus many many entertainment such as tv, music, video games, pub, disco, sports…. y cant we live the earth as heaven???? y must make this worls a hell???
fyi, infidels are not live like the way muslim does. we serve the nation, the world, we work, we earn, we spend for the good of the world. we love each other, we enjoy our lifes on earth, we never blow ourself up, we never plan for jihad, we never being teach that infidels are dirty, cant be friend with, should be kill…
find your creator, but must use your brain dear… not just believe in something other ppl said, such as the big liar muhammad. look at what he said, full of violent, contradictions, error, brutality, funny things… differentiate yourself with the animals, yes, animals never use the brain, but u are not animal but human. and pls use your brain to find the truth!
so, u still believe the allah will pass down a book for you as a guild? yes you are right, mother nature will not pass down any books for us, including the funny books call quran. the mother nature had given us a brain for us to see, learn, think, search the secret of the nature, and that is enough. look at the technology that we have today, the space station, and also the pc that you use now, where it come from? from holy books? LOL, it was created by human by using their brain!!! our brain is the only tool to lead us to the truth!
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haha..seem you are mad uh? if you have the truth, please dont manipulate or trying to predict what on the diolag, is it true or not.
Ask another questions!!
Yes, you must ask another question to Dr.Danial if you really have what you called ‘truth’.
Why i pass to him?
Because he study and I have read his book. I do agree.
Do you know that the Solah can motivate you? Do you what the effect of the Solah to the human body from Scientific view? Do you know all what AL-Quran said already shown at this world?
If you study the al-Quran, you will know.
p.s: maybe you do study.
p.s.s: even when you know the truth, you will not accept it and think,”owh..it just a prediction” or something like this..cause you still dont get the Hidayah.
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Plus, do you know that the 9/11 tragedy is not created by that plane?
I do have a videos that show that it was not the Islam that done all that. In fact, even i shy to say it: “Arab dont have the technology to do those thing” cause it needs a lot of strategy and must know the technologies..
p.s: Oh, you maybe want to say: “you can create the video like that..”
hahaha..but it in ur self to believe or not after see the video cause some people just stubborn |o|
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This is the blog that talks about some of the facts:
http://erzwan.blogspot.com/
Hope you enjoy reading.. :)
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Children are being murdered in the name of Islam.
Women are being stoned to death in the name of Islam.
Civilians are being bombed in the name of Islam.
People are being beheaded in the name of Islam. Children are being raped and murdered (Beslan) in the name of Islam.
It is Muslims living in the West who demand that Western societies change to suit them. Hindus, Buddhists, and a dozen other faiths manage to coexist peacefully with other religions.
But not Muslims. Muslims threaten and carry out violent acts in the name of their religion.
Wherever Islam is introduced, violence and intolerance follows.
Your religion is not fit for the modern world.
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Yusoff Reply:
January 25th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
the creator allah created you and set rules for you. allah can do whatever allah wants. who are you to question him? what have you created? shit and pee only so far!
modern world? pornography is western culture. is that modern or sex slavery?
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Infidel the Great Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
allah can do wat ever he wan? but now is the muslim people do wat ever he want in the name of allah, can you see the different???? cant you????? any different???????
did allah ever did anything to human? no, allah is an imaginary deity that never ever exist. he was once called al-ilah, the moon god…. there is no god on the moon.
‘who are you to question him?’ hahaha…. standard muslim answering by questioning… because they are lazy to use their brain.
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Infidel the Great Reply:
January 29th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
allah can do wat ever allah wants? but now is muslim doing wat ever they wan in the name of allah, eventhough they are doing the wrong things. cant u see the different??? cant you???? any different???????????
allah can do wat ever allah wants? who is allah? in fact allah never exist. he was a imaginary deity by muhammad. once allah was called al-ilah, the moon god and was placed on the top of the roof of kaibah…
“who are you to question him?” hahaha… standard muslim answering by question because they don have the answer, and they are lazy to think, and they are afraid to lose
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Thanks for your comment Keith :) Welcome to this blog. Seems like i need to create a new category here..hehe.
I want to refer comments from my friend’s blog: Clik here for source.
Heres the quote:
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“There are closet Christians who are just as violent and offensive as the Muslim terrorist extremists. Timothy McVeigh was a Christian, so-called, who blew up a building in Oklahoma with the help of his Christian friend that killed innocent people, including babies”
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Above post is from the Callen Damornen and surely she is not a Muslim.
Islam does not teach their follower to create violence, killing without a reason. In Islam even if you need to get into war (after enemies declared war), you cant kill babies, child or the folks. Look how good it was :)
So from the comment above[from what i have quoted], what do you want to say? Why just Islam be blamed? What not blame Christians even they have killed without any reason?
I do agree to what Callen Damornen said:
“I cannot abide by any faith that has in its context oppression of anyone, but I cannot blackball all believers in the radical extremist groups either.”
Because of some black sheep, we the Muslim have being blamed for terrorist. Islam being said that it was not a reliable religion and teaching terrorist. Who knows that these ‘blacksheep’ was being created by the enemy of Islam?
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DPM of Malaysia:
1.Dato’ Seri Najib kicked the ball first to insist to insist none should openly debate if Muslims could slander the followers of other religions
2.Non-Malays living in the vicinity of mosques in Kuala Lumpur hear this call to arms against the non-Muslims through high-pitches megaphones
http://www.mggpillai.com/article.php3?sid=2049
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Just wanted to let you know how deeply honored I feel about being refered to as a danger to islam. This compliment made my day!!!
THANK YOU!
European Kafir
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Erm… fictional character, John.
If you said like that, how about debate between Pastor and Ahmed Deedat?
Maybe, the Pastor also a fictional character. I have a bunch of Ahmed Deedat videos but don’t know where to upload it.
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I WANT REFRESH YOUR MIND AT OUTSIDE THAT ISLAM IS A TRUELY RELIGION AND NO OTHERS TRUELY RELIGON EXCEPT ISLAM. ALQURAN AND ASSUNNAH ARE TRUELY ENCYCLOPEDIA..ISLAM DID NOT MEAN TERRORIST BUT ISLAM IS PEACE(SEJAHTERA)….
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if the people know how islam about,their life fully with happiness. =)
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Well, since you mentioned Dr. Danial, I have posted a reply to his laughable post.
You can find the 2 part post titled “The Great Dr. Danial and his bitch” posted on August 29th and 30th respectively.
If Dr. Danial feels like talking, he can drop us an email, we will think about it. And of course, everyone is free to comment.
Have fun ranting alone!
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Dear Avenging Apostate,
Are you a Malaysian? And if you do i can see that you’re perfectly healthy and in good shape when you’re typing those comments.
Majority of Malaysian are Muslims and do any one of them have any attempt to hurt you?
Are you really an apostate? I doubt it! If you can say that ‘John’ is a fictional character..so do we, i’m betting that you’re just want some attention from Muslims in the Net by saying that you’re a Malay apostate to show that Islam is weak in Malaysia..wel i have news for you…in reality you’re just a pathetic Chinese guy who recently rejected by a Malay girl just because she don’t to convert to your religion hence you begin your fictitous ‘Holy war’ against Islam! So pathetic…
Well, that wraps up for today…as you can see when you can spread malicous accusations and slander towards Islam, so can i! How do you feel when i made up those stories? Grow up laa you little ‘Ah Seng’! Or maybe you should consider another citizenship if you’re not confortable living in Malaysia :)
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Dear Avenging Apostate,
Are you a Malaysian? And if you do i can see that you’re perfectly healthy and in good shape when you’re typing those comments.
Majority of Malaysian are Muslims and do any one of them have any attempt to hurt you?
Are you really an apostate? I doubt it! If you can say that ‘John’ is a fictional character..so do we, i’m betting that you’re just craving for some attention from Muslims in the Net by saying that you’re a Malay apostate to show that Islam is weak in Malaysia..well i have news for you…in reality you’re just a pathetic Chinese guy who recently rejected by a Malay girl just because she don’t want to convert to your religion hence you begin your fictitous ‘Holy war’ against Islam! So pathetic…
Well, that wraps up for today…as you can see when you can spread malicous accusations and slander towards Islam, so can i! How do you feel when i made up those stories? Grow up laa you little ‘Ah Seng’! Or maybe you should consider another citizenship if you’re not confortable living in Malaysia :)
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I’m not Malaysian. You can read my testimony on my website and find out for yourself where I am from and where I live.
And yes, I really am an apostate. Or is your small mind unable to bend itself around this unthinkable concept?
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Shalom
Saya dah kaji banyak agama.
Dan saya dapati agama islam itu yang paling rasional.
Bila diteliti hadis dan tulisan para sarjana islam terdahulu, perkataan jihad itu luas maksudnya.
Walaupun saya masih lagi beragama yahudi kerana saya bangsa yahudi, namun saya beri jaminan bahawa agama islam itu kemungkinan besar adalah agama yang benar-benar diturunkan oleh tuhan.
Hanya mereka yang mahu melawan tuhan sahaja yang sanggup mempersoalkan tulisan dan arahan tuhan dalam al-quran. mereka ini patut menuntut ilmu dengan lebih dalam
Pasal agama kristian, agama ini paling tak logik. kami orang yahudi menganggap jesus itu adalah anak luar nikah. fikirlah bolehkah seorang perempuan yang tidak berkahwin melahirkan anak? dan sanggupkah tuhan berkahwin dengan manusia. Tuhan tu bacul lah kalau membiarkan anak dia dibunuh oleh nenek moyang saya ribuan tahun dahulu.
Sebenarnya paderi ini tak cukup umat, sebab tu dia cuba sedaya upaya sebarkan agama anjing ni kat sebelah sini. di sini dia ketawa sebab ramai orang asia masuk kristian. tapi di barat dia mengangis kerana agama kristian ni dah rejeck, tak masuk akal langsung.
kami akan cuba sedaya upaya kami untuk terus keluarkan orang barat dari agama kristian ni. syabas rabi-rabi di amerika! anda berjaya.
sebenarnya, tak ramai orang yahudi yang menganut kitab talmud ni, kitab ni hanyalah rekaan semata-mata supaya kami bangsa yahudi terus menguasai dunia. Tapi tak ramai yahudi yang berpegang pada talmud.
Datuk saya sendiri pernah berpesan bahawa jikalau saya dan keluarga menghadapi ancaman masyarakat sekeliling, ubahlah kandungan talmud dan ikutinya pasti kami akan berjaya hancurkan ancaman itu. tapi bila kami telah stabil dan berkuasa, simpan saja talmud dan bacalah torah untuk hari akhir.
shalom aleichem
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Wouldnt be the first self-hating Yahudi, that is, if this was really authored by Jew.
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hurm. The person above even don’t leave his email. or web url. So cannot confirmed.
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Hey folks, I hate to interrupt again…I know you may still be basking in the warm fuzzy afterglow of that glorious Muslim victory in the Lina Joy case recently. But I had one of my posts published today at the Malaysia Today website. Yup, I’m talking ’bout your, um, ‘religion’ again, in no uncertain terms. Why dont all of you go check it out? Or are you too afraid of what I might have to say about the so-called ‘Religion of Peace’?
Here’s the link:
http://malaysia-today.net/blog2006/letters.php?itemid=5167
Hope to see you all there. Shalom.
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Aku tertarik dengan post2 di atas. Looks like that there are some people who would go all the way to promote hate.
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This is, of course, a familiar tactic of leftists, jihadists, and those who sympathize with them: characterize any accurate report of their activities as “hatred.”
My research and writings are based on authentic Muslim sources and texts. If there is any “hatred” in it, it comes from those sources, not from me.
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lets read and understand the words in Quran! InsyaAllah u’ll can find answer 4 all question…Allahuakhbar!
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Ah, the takbir….
The takbir’s meaning?
“Caution…Muslims in the area!”
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hai!!
shalom.
jumpa lagi.
lol. saya terjumpa rupanya blog ini lagi satu kali.
masih tetap jalan ya!.
most of us like to discuss in english.
but. not me
saya rasa bahasa melayu itu lebih selesanya.
tak perlu kami cakap ikut guna bahasa ‘binatang peliharaan’ kami
kami manusia paling mulia dan sempurna.
itu dulu. sekarang fahaman facist saya punya sudah hilang.
apa guna kita bangga sama bangsa kita.
kan nanti Allah marah.
dalam al-quran tuhan Allah ada tulis
dia cipta kita banyak bangsa untuk kita kenal-kenal dan hidup dalam aman. Allah juga haramkan sifat asabiyah itu. asabiah saya tahu maknanya ialah perkauman kan.
saya juga minta maaf sama umat kritian. kerana selama ini saya anggap agama mereka diturunkan oleh anjing.
rupa-rupa, ini agama punya datang dari satu tuhan ya. Allah juga datangnya.
Isa itu adalah nabi yang diturunkan oleh Allah untuk ajak sama manusia buat baik.agama itu sebenarnya islam juga namanya.kata kristien itu datang lambat rupa. mungkin ada dicipta dari orang putih. bila mereka masuk agama ini. pada masa itu agama ini telah berlari ayat-ayat nya dan tak dapat sampai maksud yang benar pada penganut ini.dengan kuasa Allah Isa naik ke langit dan pengikut dia ingat isa mati sudah. tapi macam mana mereka boleh anggap Isa jadi anak tuhan tak saya tahu ya.itu sejarah harus kaji kita.
baik sempena ini bulan ramadan maka saya sehendaknya minta maaf pada semua. kita tak boleh gaduh dan kutuk pada orang . hatta dia itu agama dia lain dengan kita. Allah marah kalau kita gaduh. banyak ayat-ayat dalam quran larang kita gaduh. Allah cipta kita supaya kita jadi khalifah dia untuk urus dunia ini dengan baik. itu sebab nya. jadi kalau gaduh. buat hancur maka kita dikira engkar akan perintah dia. maka tidak ikut akan apa yang al-quran suruh kan.
mari kita berbaik!
berdamai!
itu yang al-quran suruh
itu yang allah mahu.
jalankan tugas kita sebagai khalifah dengan sebaik-baik mungkin.
jangan khianat.
saya rasa tidak perlu saya bagi emel saya di laman ini.
cukup sudah dengan anda kenal akan saya.
saya sebenarnya orang yahudi tulen bani israel
keluarga saya datang sini masa zaman perang dulu
saya tinggal di pulau pinang.
lebih lanjut saya tak perlu kasi tahu.
tak penting saya rasa.
salam perdamaian
itu ajaran tuhan allah @ yahweh
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Ass. Wr. Wb
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A Jew who only speaks BM? Har har. Talk about chutzpah.
Malaysians are not allowed to be Jewish. Don’t believe me? Try going to the MyKad office and changing your religion to Judaism–even infidel Malaysians wouldn’t be allowed to do it. The only Jews you will find in Malaysia are those with foreign passports…and of course Israelis are barred from visiting.
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http://www.answering-islam.org/
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hah huh hoh heh huh hoh hui hooohhhh!
you just tickle my ass hole hoeh hoeh hoeh!
the stupid person saya rasa!
sebagai orang yang menyokong Yahudi, takkan kamu tidak tahu itu bangsa saya yang paling cerdik di dunia. judaisme hanya fahaman pada saya, tak terlepas sama pengaruh kabbalah. kami ivrit suci bukannya kazar. bukannya anjing sanjungan kamu selama ini.
nak menegakkan pendapat, tapi fikir tidak tahu.
jangan salah anggap keluarga dan saya sebagi pengintip. kami hanya hidup sebagai penduduk malaysia.
saya masuk forum ini hanya mahu kasi nasihat & pendapat.
jangan semai rasa benci.
saya lihat dalam forum ini orang islam tidak meletak kata2 benci. mereka hanya jawab itu fitnahan anda saja. malahan tidak ada hinaan pun terhadap kamu punya agama. tapi kamu juga kawan kamu yang lain buat yang baliknya. tengok! siapa baik. dalam ini forum Orang Islam jugak yang baik. kamu yang jahat.
sebagai umat bangsa tercerdik di dunia mestilah saya boleh cakap gunanya bahasa melayu. kerana kita orang malaysia. bukan sama awak yang nampak tidak pandai terima kasih. walaupun saya sangkal itu teori darwin. kadang2 tapi ada betulnya. orang timur macam awak keturunannya binatang.
nak tunjuk pandai undang-undang lah konon
hihihihihi bye333333
muahhh!
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Here is something for you Muslims to think about, and especially the Bumi Jew ‘wannabe’ who calls himself (it’s always a ‘him’) ‘ilanit ben levi’.
The following are some historical tidbits from the Sira by Ibn Ishaq, as quoted by Ibn Hisham, which is available in an English translation. It makes for very depressing reading. The biography of Mohammed (the Muslim ‘prophet’, not mine) is full of violence, cruelty, intolerance and anti-Semitism.
Here are some of the passages from the Sira revealing Mohammeds hatred of the Jews :
1. Kill any Jews that falls into your power said the Prophet: p.369
2. The killing of Ibn Sunayna, and its admiration leading someone to convert to Islam: p.369
3. The killing of Sallam ibn Abul Huqayq: pp.482-483
4. The assassination of Kab b.al-Ashraf ,who wrote verses against Muhammad: pp.364-369
5. The raid against the Jewish tribe of the Banul-Nadir, and their banishment. pp.437-445
6. The extermination of the Banu Qurayza, between 600-800 men. pp.461-469
7. The killing of alYusayr. pp.665-666
the anti-jihadist’s last blog post..Kosovo Emerging as Bastion of Radical Islam
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To the anti-jihadist.
I’m strongly denying that Prophet Muhammad is full of violence as you claim.
You shouldn’t take 1 sentence and manipulating them without doing full research and understand the reason behind it.
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All your questions will be answered by Dr. Ali Sina.
http://www.faithfreedom.org
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How the Quran lied about Mary and Jesus Christs birth?
By Mohammad Asghar
2005/04/18
Syeda Muneeba Masood, a devout Muslim woman, wrote in Banglarnari: Ibn Jarir and others narrated that one day Maryam ran out of water. She asked her cousin, Yusuf, the son of Yaqub to go with her to get some. He declined, saying he had his sufficiency for that day, so Maryam went to fetch water alone. There, she found Jibril, whom Allah had sent to her in the shape of a man.
Response: This is what the Quran tells us about Mary, the mother of Jesus Christ. My tafsir of the Quranic verses and the inferences I have drawn from them are more realistic than what Ibn Jarir and others have narrated about her and her conception with a son whose father was not a human being but Allah Himself:
19: Sura Maryam, or Mary
It seems to us that Allah always derived great pleasure from violent deaths of His beloved people. Not only in the case of John but also in the case of Jesus Christ, He looked the other way when the Jews of Jerusalem put His beloved son to excruciating pains before putting him to death through crucifixion, a method of execution the very thought of which makes many of us tremble today with extreme fear. But the people of the past were not like the people of today: like Allah, they, too, took great pleasure from great pains they inflicted on their victims.
And yet, we, the common folks, believe that the same Allah can save us from the tyranny of our rulers, without giving any thought to His past failures! This blind belief in many of us developed from reading what are stated in some of the most disgusting Books we call Religious Scriptures; they being made sweet and effective by the preaching of the priests of all hue and characters.
With their forceful voice, the priests can lift many listeners off their feet. With their well articulated but often circuitous arguments, they can turn a rat into a lion. With the power of their penetrating eyes, they can mesmerize even those who refuse to be influenced by anything they do not believe without verifying its efficacy or truthfulness.
Fooling people in the name of religions has become a high-paying job for many people. It is their priesthood that helps them thrive in this world. It is their ability to fool others that has turned many of them into multi-millionaires; their economically hard-pressed victims being unable to draw any tangible benefit from any of the things they tell them in their sermons. Yet, they flock to their congregations to be fooled again and again.
How long humans would continue to be fooled, we do not know. But we are sure of one thing and it is this: the sharks in the garbs of priests would continue to feast on their unsuspecting victims for so long as they would not be able to realize their tactics and the banality of their religious sermons.
The story of Zakariya and John over (as stated in the beginning of Sura Maryam), Allah asked Muhammad to relate or narrate in the Quran the story of Mary: how she left her people and took herself to a solitary place to the east. Following His instruction, this is what Muhammad narrated, in his own words, in the Quran:
Verse 17: She placed a screen (to screen herself) from them; then We sent to her our angel, and he appeared before her as a man in all respects.
Verse 18: She said: I seek refuge from thee to (Allah) Most Gracious: (come not near) if thou dost fear Allah:
Verse 19: He said: Nay, I am only a messenger from thy Lord, (to announce) to thee the gift of a holy son.
Verse 20: She said: How shall I have a son, seeing that no man has touched me, and I am not unchaste?
Verse 21: He said: So (it will be): they Lord saith, That is easy for Me: and (We wish) to appoint him as a Sign unto men and Mercy from Us: it is a matter (so) decreed.
Muhammads ability to narrate Marys story was not better than Allahs ability. In fact, both of them seem to be handicapped by their inability to narrate clearly the stories of the past, most of which were, though, essential for laying the foundation of Islam.
Moreover, he contradicted himself in many places of the Quran. His statement in verse 17 is one of them. In this verse, he said that just one angel i.e. Gabriel had appeared before Mary as a man in all respects. He made quite a different statement in verse 3:42 and 45.
According to these verses, the number of angels who assembled in Marys chamber was not only more than one; they even fought over the question of who among them was going to take care of her. This contradiction makes it abundantly clear that the Quran is a brainchild of Muhammad and that to attribute its contents to Allah is simply a fallacious invention on the part of the Muslims.
Despite the fact that some of the verses, quoted above, belong to the category of unclear verses, yet, we will make our best efforts to find out what exactly they mean and what lessons we humans are supposed to take from them.
Improving upon the part of Marys story that was narrated by Allah in Sura al-Imran, Muhammad tells us through verse 16, above, that there was a time in her life when she withdrew from her family and went to a place in the East where she hid herself behind a screen, without giving a reason for her doing such an irrational thing. Some Muslim scholars, Maulana Abul Modudi, being one of them, explained Marys action thus:
Dedicated by her mother to the worship of Allah, Mary took up residence in a chamber of Baitul Muqqadus {it being the other name of the Farthest Mosque, or Masjidul Aqsa, mentioned in 17:1} under the supervision of prophet Zakariya. Her chamber was located in the eastside of it. Following a requirement of isolationism {known as ehtehkaf in Arabic} practiced by the isolationists, she hung a curtain to hide herself from the eyes of the onlookers.[1]
The structure the learned scholar he has referred to as Baitul Muqqadus did not exist at the time Mary is believed to have lived. It was built in 690 A.D., or thereabouts by the Muslim Caliph Abd-ul-Malik at the grounds where once stood the Temple of Solomon . Titus destroyed it in 70 A.D., whereafter it was never rebuilt. Hence, his attempt at clarifying Muhammads statement is not only misplaced, it is also a blatant lie. [2]
Whatever the location of the place, the verse does not give us a clear-cut reason that required a young Mary to withdraw herself from her family, and to move to the east, unless the prophet under whose care she was given by her mother had made her pregnant.
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[1] Tafhimul Quran; part 3, pp. 62 &63. It is authors translation from Urdu.
[2] Abdullah Yusuf Ali thinks the chamber was located in the Temple . See His note 2471, The Holy Quran, Vol. 2, p. 771.
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At the time Mary had become pregnant without getting married, adultery carried death sentence, especially for the women. Since prophet Zakariya was a powerful man, it would have been impossible for her to claim that the child she was carrying was his. Her failure to tell the truth spelt death for her.
We surmise that the Qurans Marry moved to a solitary place to hide her pregnancy from the people. Here she contrived the rest of the story that blends well with the one that Muhammad himself had fabricated in connection with his alleged ascension to the heavens and his face-to-face meeting with Allah.
At the time Mary became pregnant with Jesus Christ, the Jews believed that angels do come down to earth and meet Allahs selected people. They brought good news for some; to others they brought prosperity and happiness. They, however, differed on the forms or shape the angels assumed during their encounters with humans.
Being herself a Jew, Mary knew well that her co-religionists would treat her leniently, if she told them that the child she was carrying was given to her by Allah through an angel. She was right; the Jews did not punish her even after knowing that she had become a mother without getting married to a man.
The Jews could not have punished her, even if some of them wanted to, for she presented her case in such a convincing manner that was enough to put them off their course. She told them that the angel who had visited her was a man in all respects, implying that it was he who had made her pregnant.
The biblical story on Marys conception does not name a particular angel; the Quran does. According to it, there is an archangel by the name of Gabriel, who represents Allah, whenever a representation on His behalf becomes necessary. In fact, without him, Allah cannot survive, hence his title Ruhul Quddus,[1] i.e. the Soul of Quddus, Quddus meaning Holy, and it being one of the ninety-nine lofty titles of Allah.
As the Quran says, it was this archangel whom Allah had given the responsibility to make Mary pregnant on His behalf. This is what the Arabic version of verse 7 says, but the translator[2] whose translation we are using in our commentary intentionally distorted it with a particular intention: when angel Gabriel is Allahs Soul, it goes without saying that whatever he did he did it for and on behalf of Allah, as He cannot do many things by Himself.
Confession by the Muslims that Allah was Christs father will nullify Islam, for the Quran claimed that it is not befitting to (the majesty of) Allah that He should beget a son. …[3] It also insists that Allah has no partner, hence the term la sharik used to describe His unitary status. Whoever thinks that Allah had or has a son becomes a renegade, a sin that is punishable with death penalty.
It was on account of the above reason that the translator of the verse translated it in a way as was necessary for him to protect his Islamic belief. To us, his action amounted to dishonesty and forgery. Had he been an upright man, his translation should have read thus:
She placed a screen (to screen herself) from them; then We sent to her Our Soul, and it appeared before her as a man in all respects.[4]
The Quran does not tell us the number of souls Allah has. Believing that He has only one soul, we wonder what happens to Him when He transfers His soul to Gabriel.
Does not having a soul make Allah a human-like entity? Does Allah become a statue during the time His soul goes out and remains in Gabriels body? These are difficult questions for which we have no answer. Perhaps, Islamic scholars or theologians can help us with the answer, as many of them appear to know even those events which take place in heaven, between Allah and His angels.
Seeing a young man in her solitary chamber, Mary panicked. Knowing not how to protect her virginity, she begged of the man not to force her into sex. The man replied: I am the messenger of your Lord, and have come to give you a holy son.
Mary asked him innocently: How shall I bear a child, when I am a virgin, untouched by man?
The man replied: Such is the will of your Lord, implying that he was there to break her virginity, as there is no difficult thing for Him {to perform}. {The child I am going to give to you) shall be a sign to mankind, says the Lord, and a blessing from Ourself. This is Our decree.[5]
Verse 22: So she conceived him, and she retired with him to a remote place.
Verse 23: And the pains of childbirth drove her to the trunk of a palm-tree: she cried (in her anguish): Ah! Would that I had died before this would! Would that I had been a thing forgotten and out of sight!
Verse 24: But (a voice) cried to her from beneath the (palm-tree): Grieve not! for thy Lord hath provided a rivulet beneath thee;
Verse 25: And shake towards thyself the trunk of the palm-tree: it will let fall fresh ripe dates upon thee.
Being assured that the man was not a rapist; that he was carrying Allahs soul in his body, and that the child he would help her produce would be Allahs son, Mary agreed gladly to let him sleep with her. Her one time affair with him made her pregnant with Jesus Christ, and this she realized soon after the man departed from her chamber.
Instead of staying in her chamber where she could be cared for in her advance stage by her relatives, Mary took flight once again; this time landing herself beneath a palm-tree of a desert. Here she lived all by herself, until she was ready to deliver her baby.
As it happens to all would-be mothers, Mary, too, was overtaken by the pains of her childs birth. Finding no human around who could extend a helping hand to help ease the delivery, she cried out: Would that I had died and passed into oblivion!
Instead of helping Mary deliver His son, Allah made someone cry out to her from below the surface where she was laboring: Do not despair. Your Lord has provided a rivulet that runs at your feet, and if you shake the trunk of this palm-tree it will drop fresh ripe dates in your lap.
We are amazed by the lack of sensibility as well as sensitivity in Allah. Here is a woman with His child, and she is crying with pains of childbirth, He does nothing but to assure her of the food and water He arranged for her to live on, provided she survived the threat posed to her life by the un-assisted delivery of His baby!
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We do not know of any human who would do what Allah, the Quran says, had done to Mary. First, He impregnated her without letting anyone know about His affairs with her; then He made her leave the company of her relatives. He made her deliver His baby by the trunk of a desert palm-tree, where there was no other human being to extend her a helping hand. He capped His inane behavior by talking to her about food and water, which she would have needed only after she had safely delivered the child, instead of giving her help, together with the words of consolation, encouragement and love.
Was it a manner in which Allah should have treated the mother of His only son? We wonder! If what He did to Mary was the standard bearer of His behavior, is there any way for us to believe that He is capable of treating us any differently?
Verse 26: So eat and drink and cool (thine) eye. And if thou dost see any man, I have vowed a fast to (Allah), Most Gracious, and this day will I enter into no talk with any human being.
Verse 27: At length she brought the (babe) to her people, they said: O Mary! Truly an amazing thing has thou brought!
Verse 28: O sister of Aaron! Thy father was not a man of evil, nor thy mother a woman unchaste!
Verse 29: But she pointed to the babe. They said: How can we talk to one who is a child in the cradle?
Verse 30: He said: I am indeed a servant of Allah: He hath given me revelation and made me a prophet;
Verse 31: And He hath made me blessed wheresoever I be, and hath enjoined on me prayer and Charity as long as I live;
Verse 32: (He) hath made me kind to my mother, and not overbearing or miserable;
Verse 33: So Peace be on me the day I was born, the day that I die, and the day that I shall be raised up to life (again)!
Verse 35: It is not befitting to (the majesty of) Allah that He should beget a son. Glory to Him! When He determines a matter, He only says to it, Be, and it is.
Mary somehow delivered her baby. She also removed his umbilical cord with her own effort, perhaps, by using the edge of a palm-leave!
Seeing both the mother and her baby safe and in good health, Allah asked Mary to eat and drink and to cool her eye by staring at him with an instruction not to talk to any stranger, should she happened to see one approaching her. She was to tell him: I have vowed a fast to Allah and I will not enter into any talk with any human being.
What kind of a fast did Allah talk about in the verse? Does it resemble the one Muslims keep in the Lunar Month of Ramadhan, and also on other occasions? Do they eat and drink during their fasts?
If answers to the questions are in negative, then did not the instruction Allah gave Mary to eat and drink but to tell others that she was fasting amount to telling a great lie?
Some Muslim scholars have found an easy way to slip out of a tight situation the above question puts them in. According to them, the fast Allah had instructed Mary to keep was not the one Muslims keep today; it was a fast that the Children of Bani Israel of ancient time observed through silence.[1]
Even if the Children of Israel kept their fast through silence, they must have had some rules, as do the Muslims of today that governed their fasts. Muslims begin their fast before the break of the day; they break it in the evening before it becomes dark.
In the interim period of the day, Muslims do not drink or eat anything. Eating or drinking automatically nullifies a Muslims fast. Did the Children of Israel have similar rule for their community?
If they did, then was not Marys statement to a stranger that she vowed a fast to Allah sufficient to break her fast of silence? If it was, then why Allah taught her such a foolish thing? Does it indicate that He is an All-knowing deity whom Muslims should worship with so much of reverence and fervor?
The fact that the Children of Israel did not talk once they begin their fast is evident from verse 29. Instead of answering peoples question on her baby, Mary signaled them to talk to him, for if she had said anything, it would have broken her fast.
Why Allah did not ask Mary to talk to the strangers in a sign language, instead of telling her to open up her mouth, which she was not supposed to do during her fast?
Trained well how to deal with the people she would be confronting on the question of her baby, Mary returned to her town. Immediately, its people began asking her questions on Jesus Christ. Instead of herself responding to their questions, she pointed to the baby and signaled them to talk to him.
Since no human had ever seen or heard of a babe taking from his cradle, they thought that Mary had gone made. But the babe saved his mothers reputation, and began telling them:
I am indeed a servant of Allah: He hath given me revelation and made me a prophet. …
How people must have reacted to a newborn baby talking to them from his cradle we do not know, but we are pretty sure that many of them must have died of heart failures. Others must have left the town, thinking that it had become an abode of a ghost; those who could not go away must have kept their children hidden in their homes, lest they become the dinner of a demon they never saw before.
The babys claim that he began receiving revelations from Allah immediately after his birth must have created great uproar among the priestly people of the town. Driven by the news, they must have come, and fallen to his feet, beseeching him to become their chief priest then and there. They must also have asked him to lead them in their congregational prayers; to attend to their funerals and to arbitrate their disputes. And to do all other things they themselves were incapable of doing even after reaching their old age.
But we do not find any record of the people of Marys town responding to such a never-heard of, earth-shattering and sky-falling happening that evolved around a newly-born baby who talked from his cradle and that, too, in a clear language! Was it possible that all of them had died as result of heart failures, caused by the fear of the babys speaking ability? Or, was it due to the reason that, like all the newborn babies in the world, Marys baby could not have talked immediately after his birth, hence the non-availability of its record to substantiate the Qurans absurd claim?
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An Imperfection in the Perfect Quran
By Kimble K. Smith
The Quran is the perfect word of Allah and cannot have errors. Written by Allah, its perfection has existed since time began.
There is a passage in the Quran that describes the mother of Jesus of Nazareth as the sister of Aaron. It goes like this: At length she brought (the babe) to her people, carrying him (in her arms). They said: O Mary! Truly a strange thing has thou brought! O sister of Aaron, thy father was not a man of evil, nor your mother a woman unchaste!” (Sura 19:27-28).
But Aaron, the brother of Moses, lived and died centuries before Mary, the mother of Jesus was born; and Aarons sister was Miriam, not Mary. In the Arabic language, the word for Mary and Miriam is the same word, (Maryam) perhaps the cause of this mistake. It is an error that an Arab of the 7th Century might make, to confuse Mary with Miriam, but not a mistake that the all-knowing Allah would make.
The above error was discovered during Muhammads lifetime, and it was brought to his attention. He had an answer for it.
His explanation went as follows: The (people of the old age) used to give names (to their persons) after the names of Apostles and pious persons who had gone before them. (Translation of Sahih Muslim, The Book on General Behaviour (Kitable Al-Adab), Book 025, Number 5326).
There is no way that Muhammad could have known that this was the reason that Mary was called sister of Aaron in the Quran unless Allah told him. Mary is never addressed anywhere (and for any reason) as the sister of Aaron in any of the Jewish or Christian scriptures. So either Allah gave this explanation to Muhammad as the reason why Mary was addressed in the Quran as the sister of Aaron, or Muhammad lied.
If we believe that Allah told this to Muhammad, then we have to wonder why, to avoid the appearance of an error in the Quran, Allah didnt explain the use of the phrase sister of Aaron right in the Quran in the first place. For example, why didnt the Quran say something like this: At length she brought (the babe) to her people, carrying him (in her arms). They said: O Mary! Truly a strange thing has thou brought! And addressing her with a pious name of old, they said, O sister of Aaron, thy father was not a man of evil, nor your mother a woman unchaste”? Surely Allah, being the greatest of all poets, could have found a beautiful, perfect way to explain this issue in the Quran.
Allah has many attributes, but stupid is not one of them. Why did Allah allow His perfect book to be doubted and attacked for describing Mary as the sister of Aaron when Allah could have easily fixed the problem beforehand right in the Quran? Because Allah did not fix this passage, many believe that Muhammad was lying to cover a mistake that he, not Allah, had made. Note that Muhammads explanation nullifies all other possible explanations, such as the possibility that the brother of Mary mentioned in the Quran was a different Aaron from the brother of Moses.
Also note that the Quran is a perfect book, but contains an imperfection that could have easily been corrected within the book itself, creating a contradiction of the most fundamental sort.
Surely Allah knew that the phrase, sister of Aaron would be read as a mistake by many readers. He knew that the Arabic word for Miriam and Mary was the same word, pointing to an Arab (and who else but Muhammad?) as the likely source of this passage. For all these reasons, Allah had every incentive to correct this problem in the Quran so that it would not look like Muhammads mistake; but He didnt correct it.
Therefore, we conclude that Allah did not write the Quran.
However it is very likely that this hadith was forged and falsely attributed to Muhammad. It is an attempt of the Muslims to whitewash Muhammads error.
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Another Apostate Speaks Up
Basharee Mortadd
March 20th, 2007 ˇ
I was born to Muslim parents who, like most religious parents, were guilty of indoctrinating their children into a religion they never even chose for themselves. Fortunately for me, I always kept an open mind. I was also smart enough to keep my mouth shut until I moved to a Western country. Soon after, I learned enough about Islam to have had enough of it. I felt so ashamed to even feel proud of this ideology of hate. I cannot believe I used to actually invite non-Muslims to this faith. But my intentions were not evil. I used to invite them because they were my friends (being the ignorant Muslim I was, I did not let the fact that I cannot befriend non-Muslims sink into my head). I did not want them to go to hell because I loved them and I wanted to save them from an eternal punishment.
I am glad they were not interested in my invitations and preaching. Westerners today tend to be so anti-Christian they want to turn to any other faith. Being a simplistic (read: primitive) religion and properly sanitized by deceiving Muslims, they find it appealing to convert to Islam. You particularly find that among non-white people who want to rebel against what they perceive to be an exclusively white religion. Another ex-Muslims recent testimony, which I encourage you to read in full, says:
Harbouring an aversion for a decadent Judaeo-Christian modernity, believers born into Christianity began to search for meaning elsewhere. The prevailing vehicles facilitative to escaping a sinking Western society were usually Buddhism, Islaam, and secular humanism. Islaam, the fastest growing religion, was an ubiquitous mantra. The vast majority considered converting to Islaam following a relationship with a Muslim. When an empathetic accord with a Muslim peer ensued, exposure to Islaam increased in addition to curiosity while submerging into a foreign culture. The medias popular portrayal of Islaam would be contradictory with a first-hand experience with Muslims. Western society seemed to degrade women as exploitable objects while Islaam offered a woman security and respect. When juxtaposed to our Christian environment, adherents to Islaam exhibited uppermost consciousness of God; they appeared pietistic to the halaal (permissible) and apathetic to the haraam (impermissible). The foremost decisive factor captivating soul searchers to Islaam was aversion for and disillusionment with the West or dunyaa (this temporal world, as opposed to the Hereafter).
Back on topic: Being an ex-Muslim, one would expect that I have been liberated and that I am living in happiness. You expect me to move on with my life and to put my past life of darkness and ignorance behind.
I truly wish that were the case. Dont take me wrong. I have never felt more liberated than during the first days during which I felt I no longer fear the fictitious Allah. Its an amazing feeling to realize that you can actually think for yourself, and be your own prophet. In fact, allow me to sound boastful when I say that leaving Islam is a powerful intellectual accomplishment. People who have not lived in Dar Al-Islam cannot and will not understand the level of indoctrination Muslims undergo for their entire lives. When you dont train your muscles, you become physically weak. Its no different with the mind. If youve never used your mind but rather simply lived under the culture of submission (Islam means submission, by the way), your ability to think withers.
Submission to whom? To your parents, to your teachers, to your local imam, to your king. Dare not question. Dare not think differently from the majority or you will face ostracism at best and death at worse. (Personally, I would prefer getting killed instead of facing humiliation from a community).
And yet, albeit the freedom to think, it is far from over. Being an ex-Muslim is just the beginning. When Neo swallowed the red pill, the movie did not end and we had two (poorly scripted) sequels of The Matrix.
The reasons I still seem attached to Islam are numerous. To name a few:
First off, I have to live as a closet apostate. The founder of Islam gave me good reasons 1400 years ago:
Sahih Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 83, Number 17:
The blood of a Muslim who confesses that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that I am His Apostle, cannot be shed except in three cases: In Qisas for murder, a married person who commits illegal sexual intercourse and the one who reverts from Islam (apostate) and leaves the Muslims.
(Repeated in Sahih Muslim)
Sahih Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 84, Number 57:
Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.
(Repeated here.)
Sahih Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 84, Number 58:
There was a fettered man beside Abu Muisa. Muadh asked, Who is this (man)? Abu Muisa said, He was a Jew and became a Muslim and then reverted back to Judaism. Then Abu Muisa requested Muadh to sit down but Muadh said, I will not sit down till he has been killed. This is the judgment of Allah and His Apostle (for such cases) and repeated it thrice. Then Abu Musa ordered that the man be killed, and he was killed.
(Repeated here, and in Sahih Muslim as well.
Phew. Argumentum ad baculum is definitely not a convincing argument for me to return to Islam, but this seventh-century madman sure did give me good reason to keep my apostasy to myself. I hate it. It seems that I can see the light and the world outside this cage but I still cannot go out and enjoy what life has to give. I still have to pretend Im a Muslim. I am never at ease with myself when Im not being myself. I was never a good liar (and thats a blessing).
I would disagree that Im safe to practice my faith (or nonbelief) in a Western democracy. Unfortunately, it looks more like a dhimmicracy to me each day. It frustrates me how the West tries to appease those who hate us and want us converted, subjugated, or killed (Im looking at you, CAIR.)
Which brings me to the second reason why Im blogging: I want to save the product of Judeo-Christian reform called the West. Many of those born into the West do not appreciate what it means to be born with free will, with guaranteed free speech, and with a separation of the church and state. Coming from the hellhole of Islam, I do, and I intend to preserve it. I will not allow my children to go through the psychological hell Islamic nations are going through. I will not allow it for your children.
Islam is a dangerous political ideology that separates the world into us versus them, into Muslim versus kafir, into Dar Al-Islam versus Dar Al-Harb. If there is anything I want you to learn from this boring rant, its this: Muslims cannot coexist in peace with non-Muslims. Muslims hate you and will never be pleased with you unless youre a living Muslim, a humiliated dhimmi, or a dead infidel:
Quran 9:29:
Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Messenger have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.
When we talk about tolerance, we mean one of two things: Either that Islam will be peaceful only when the whole world becomes Muslim, or that we are tolerant enough to allow Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians to live among us as second-class citizens under the dhimma treaty.
The third reason why Im blogging is because I want to help my people. They are infected with the illness of Islam and I wish to save them from it. Unfortunately, I need to set my feelings aside and realize that it is unlikely to result in mass apostasy. Educating them into being human beings is slow compared to their high procreation rates, which was also ordered by their prophet.
The West must, then, learn the truth about Islam so we can ban Muslim immigration and figure out how to handle the Muslim populations already living among us (well, near us they usually live in ghettos and in closed circles).
I invite everyone, Muslim or non-Muslim, to contact me with any inquiries that they may have on Islam. I shall respond to each of you as time permits. This is an obligation I will live up to.
Generally, I have been trying to help in other ways that I shall not disclose for obvious safety reasons. However, I have noticed the growth of apostate bloggers lately, and that got me thinking of having a blog for myself in support of those brave brethren. We need to stand together during this difficult time. What better place to do it than on the Internet and blogosphere, where the worse that can happen to us is receive hate mail and death threats? Thanks to the Internet, the truth will be shown. Muslims can no longer harm us because we use anonymous identities.
I plan on playing around with the blog for some time, and add links to fellow apostate bloggers, testimonies of ex-Muslims, and Islamocritical Web sites. Will I blog much? Probably not. I have a personal family matter I need to attend to for a while, and additionally, I in no way claim to be able to write as eloquently as my fellow ex-Muslims. Time will tell how blogging will go for me. But simply setting this page up is a powerful statement of support for them and for all closet apostates worldwide.
I urge all apostates of Islam to open up Web sites and blogs exposing the truth about Islam. In fact, you need not even write about Islam in your blog. Just mention that you are an apostate and write about anything else, be it your job, your dog, your obsession about Anne Coulter (off the top of my head), et cetera. Merely mentioning your apostasy is sufficient to sow the seeds of doubt in Muslims who find apostasy to be as impossible as dividing a number by zero.
Let us stand in solidarity with these fine soldiers!
Quran 17:81:
And say: The truth has come and the falsehood has vanished; surely falsehood is a vanishing (thing).
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wow, malayonly, i don’t know what your race is but be honest with your self and place your name or nickname.
My English is not so good compared to you all and i need to really careful with any words or sentences as i believed you will take advantage on this.
However I’ll try to find and get references as soon asap, well now i am busy around with final year project, I will try….
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Thanks to the paranoid rock-worshipers of this blog, I’ve gotten tons of traffic at my proudly anti Islamic site. So I owe ‘Raja’ or whoever owns this site my sincere thanks.
I think if enough Malays can dump the the poisonous Islamic ideology that has ensnared them for far too long, there is no telling how great this country could be. Islam holds Malaysia back. This dysfunctional ideology needs to be jettisoned into the rubbish bin of history as it so richly deserves.
the anti-jihadist’s last blog post..Malaysia’s “Moderate” Islam Means Racism And Oppression
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ramzwatcher Reply:
February 6th, 2008 at 2:51 pm
well, i am proud i am Muslim, and knowing more about Islam make me loves Islam so much.
I won’t believe you anti-jihadist.
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But some ‘muslims’ (lower case intentional) have listened to me and others will. That’s why many muslims are so desperate to shut people up like me. But you can’t.
the anti-jihadist’s last blog post..Is There No End to This Nonsense?
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If you win when use your fact with him, ill find another person maybe.
Why i refer you to him? Because he have more knowledge from me.
But from the articel above, you should take time to counter back isnt it?
Tips Asuransi Indonesia’s last blog post..Mengenal Asuransi Kesehatan
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don’t waste time layan those to much time and too much money. its much better we work harder and smarter gain more skill and knowledge then wasting our time about never ending religious matter. get more money.. help others need most pay zakat to asnaf or orphanage.
hazman’s last blog post..Adi Putra dan kelebihannya bagaikan biasa je.
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if the people know how islam about,their life fully with happiness. =)
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Keep the traffic coming!
the anti-jihadist’s last blog post..Slimy, Weak Politicians Pandering to Muslims
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anti jihadist keep up your work. wont say anything bad about my ex-religion but enough if other people knew it was not as perfect as they claimed it to be.
atheist
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salah satu ideologi yahudi yang aku tidak terima…..
selain pengganut agama yahudi,pengganut agama lain dianggap sebagai binatang, jadi meraka boleh membunuh sesuka hati mereka….
MASYAALLAH…………..
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Was searching for something more meaningful here but came across a damn good bzness strategy(anti-jihadist).I must say ur a bzness man with some really good traits to urself,one question,does ur web page support ads…???ur building damn good traffic frm wht ur blogging potrays,goodluck,one more person exploiting religion for financial gains,mayb the fire of hell is not enuff…all of those kinds will need individual furnaces lmao…
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Mr. “non-extremist”,
Thanks for your interest in my site.
Having read your comment dated June 27th, 2008, I feel compelled to say that, for me, fighting sharia, jihad and Islam in general is a cause and passion, not as a ‘business venture’ or as an opportunity to make money. That is why I do not have any ads on my site.
Thanks again to everyone who has written about my blog and the ideas discussed at my site. I would like to thank even my opponents here and elsewhere.
anti-jihadists last blog post..A German view of history
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Al-Quran is a good book until not everyone can read it and understand it, becox like someone here said, if you dont read it all, then you will misunderstand the whole meaning.
When somebody become terrorist, it means this guy didnt read the whole al-quran, he just read a short line from page 1, then read another line from page 10, then follow by another line from page 21, and so on….
wow…. correct or not?!
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ramzwatcher Reply:
July 25th, 2008 at 10:17 am
well, its actually supporting each other verse by verse.
Compared to another religion especially Christian that using Bible, Bible is more confusing. When you read one version and then the other version, there will be conflicting. Ahmad Deedad just use these bible weakness to make shame of Christian Priest and they can’t encounter it at all as its the truth
While Al-quran does not have any conflicting fact but related and supporting each other.
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Dutch MP calls for ban on Quran
A Dutch member of parliament has called for the Quran to be banned in the Netherlands, describing it as a “fascist book” which calls on people to kill non-believers and rape women.
Geert Wilders, leader of the far-right Freedom Party, called for the ban in a letter published in De Volkskrant newspaper.
In his letter, Wilders compares the Muslim holy book to Mein Kampf, Adolf Hitler’s autobiography, and said the Quran has “no place in our constitutional state”.
“I have been saying this for years: there is no such thing as a moderate Islam,” Wilders wrote.
Wilders’ Freedom Party holds nine seats in the Netherlands’ 150 seat parliament.
Call for ban
Wilders also said several chapters in the Quran “call on Muslims to oppress, persecute or kill Christians, Jews, dissidents and non-believers, to beat and rape women and to establish an Islamic state by force”.
The publication of the letter comes after a weekend attack on Eshan Jami, a young Dutch politician, who established a group to support people who have renounced Islam.
Jami, who was not visibly injured in the attack, is now under police protection as is Wilders.
“Ban this wretched book like Mein Kampf is banned! Send a signal to Jami’s attackers and other Islamic radicals that the Quran cannot be used in the Netherlands as an inspiration or an excuse for violence,” Wilders said.
Wilders acknowledged that his plan would not receive majority support in the Dutch parliament.
“I am fed up with Islam in the Netherlands: no more Muslim immigrants allowed. I am fed up with the worship of Allah and Muhammad in the Netherlands: no more mosques,” his letter concluded.
english.aljazeera.net/news/europe/2007/08/200852514485658512.html
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ramzwatcher Reply:
July 25th, 2008 at 10:26 am
Let say if a Muslim leader said something like this, what will those Christian people and leader said? They want to stop people from going to church, temple or other religious place etc.
They will say it a bad thing and violates human rights! They will say Islam not respect human being and other religious. All blame will goes up to Islam and Muslim.
See so narrow minded they are!
But don’t worry, you will not found any Islamic country that will banned other religious such as Dutch. Islam teach us to respect and acknowledge others ;D
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Here’s ANOTHER Reason NON-Malays Should NOT Vote UMNO in Any Future General Elections and Bye-Elections
Read here from M’sians Unplugged ….
Average Non-Malay Malaysians and NON-Malay Bumiputras have LITTLE future for their children and their grandchildren IF they still vote Barisan Nasional which allows UMNO to remain in Government – it was before, it is today, and it will be tomorrow.
Excerpts from article by Raja Petra Kamarudin
by
Raja Petra Kamarudin
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‘Last month, Umno Johor said that the greatest mistake they made was in giving the non-Malay immigrants citizenship in August 1957. Now that they have been given citizenship they show their ingratitude by voting for the opposition.
Yes, non-Malays, even those born in Malaysia , are immigrants. And, being immigrants, they must vote Barisan Nasional. And if they do not vote for Barisan Nasional then they are ungrateful.
Yes, voting is your right. This is your right according to the Federal Constitution of Malaysia. Malays can vote for whomsoever they would like to vote for because the Constitution allows them to do so. Malays, therefore, can vote for the opposition.
But, if you are non-Malay, then you must vote for Barisan Nasional because you are an immigrant. If you vote for the opposition then you are a traitor, you are ungrateful, and it was a great mistake giving you citizenship in 1957.
Tun Dr Mahathir’s father was born in INDIA. But Tun Dr Mahathir can vote opposition. He can even oppose Umno like he is doing so now. In fact, he can even become the Prime Minister. He is not an ungrateful immigrant who should be sent back to India .
Tian Chua, however, can’t oppose Umno. Tian Chua, whose family settled in Malaya long before the Portuguese came in 1511, is an immigrant. And if he is not happy and if he opposes Umno then he should go back to China .
And Umno Johor regrets giving Tian Chua citizenship in 1957 but does not regret giving Tun Dr Mahathir citizenship.
Why? Because Tun Dr Mahathir is Muslim while Tian Chua is not.
But if Tian Chua circumcises and takes on the Muslim name of Musa Bin Susah and marries a Malay woman, then he need not go back to China and Umno does not regret giving him citizenship in 1957.
The Malays have a very warped view of justice. Malays practice two standards of justice.
There is one standard for the Malays and another for the non-Malays.
And 90% of the tax is paid by the NON-Malays and 10% by the Malays, says Tun Dr Mahathir.
But 10% of the scholarships must go to the NON-Malays and 90% to the Malays.
And when they propose to change this to 40% for the non-Malays and 60% for the Malays, the Malays raise a hue and cry. And they call this justice. And they say Islam is about justice.’
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ramzwatcher Reply:
July 25th, 2008 at 10:31 am
Well, sometimes i don’t really believe all what does politician would say.
Today they will say A and then tomorrow they will say B.
Its a common in malaysia nowdays.
Im only believe what islam told me and religious teacher such as Tok Guru Nik Aziz etc. What they say is just same everytime they speak as they speak based on Al-Quran, something that will not changed from before and forever.
and don’t be to extreme with any political ideology ;)
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I am a Malaysian. Chinese. For the most parts of my life I have been living outside of Malaysia.
The Chinese of Malaysia is a very sad people. They are not honored in their own land, and the land of their ancestors had been run by crooks for a very long time. Only recently is there some marginal improvements. The Chinese culture in Malaysia also consists of a huge spectrum, from very noble to very vile folks, making one lose direction easily.
All these, however, pales when compared to the threats of Islam. A people who believes so firmly in their dogmas that it is basically impossible to discuss anything with them without being threatened with certain death. Words cannot express the trauma I’ve went through as a kid living in Malaysia, constantly under the nightmare that speaking anything unpleasing to certain people might lead to my imprisonment, or even death.
To make a long story short, what I wanted to say is, in spite of all these handicaps, you Malaysians have shown me a lot to be happy with. To the Chinese, you have shown me that you are courageous, and are not afraid of speaking your mind. To the Malays, you have shown me that you have developed beyond the stage of threatening people with death for speaking their minds.
The country can only move forward now.
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To editor,
MATTER 1
i want to say that i am very disappointed with your answer. Because you answer just like other UMNO people answer. Your answer is “No answer at all”.
I posted 2 articles that i get from internet. Of cox, i actually not a professional in religion and politic matter. But i hope i will get some strong facts or idea from here, so then we can have some discussion about it. But i was wrong.
I posted 2 article, one is more focus on politic, and one is more focus on religion. But it seen your answer to both matter is more focus on religion, or can be say no answer at all. Of cox, you have the right to decide what you want to write. If like that, i suggest you dont reply anything at all.
Maybe your english is better than me, but i think your mindset is narrow than me.
MATTER 2
Regarding what happen in malaysia. For me, i think islam is not the “problem”, but islam is a “tool”, do you agree with that?! But i will not discuss more about malaysia politic with you because like you said, you are not believe what malaysia politician said, it also mean you will not support any party included UMNO. So here i believe you are a good person.
MATTER 3
So lets talk about religion because it seen you are more interest in religion than politic, it also mean current malaysia politic status doesnt effect you at all, you still have your happy life everyday. Wow, it really make me jelous.
So, what is your opinion about the terrorist that always make some majo attack to innocent people? Oh… forgive me, it seen my word already confim that the terrorist are moslem. But, what i saw in video of a terrorist who cutting innocent people head using the name of allah. Maybe you will say, “its a politic matter, not a religion matter”, or other, i dont know.
Regarding this kind of terrorist attack, temporary i didnot see any US terrorist that killing people using jesus name, or China terrorist killing people using buddha name, or other… maybe i not update the latest news about this kind of matter, maybe i out of date…
Why?…Why moslem?
Maybe you can say many races also got moslem, canadian also got moslem, australian also got moslem, chinese also got moslem, indian also got moslem… but why i cannot see terrorist photo got other races combine?! why all the terrorist also got the same looking face (race)? only one race can be found in the terrorist group, do the terrorist group look down to other race? the terrorist think other race moslem not able to trust? or not able to complete the holy job? do the terrorist also “racist”?
If the terrorist issue is a political issue, why the terrorist just go and cut down the politician leader head, why want to kill other innocent people?! why not just man to man?! If is a political issue, why use allah name? It seen your allah really satisfy with his believer, always try to promote his name, free advertising, hehe…
So, why the great moslem leader dont stand out and give some comment about the moslem terrorist? At least give a small speech and advice the terrorist do not kill innocent people, why? Oh, you can say malaysia politician (who is moslem) got! they always come out and say malaysian will not support terrorist! Oh yeah, you are right. Pal, this is a great religion issue, not a political issue, suppose the moslem leader should give speech in all mosque, and tell all moslem must corporate to punish the moslem terrorist.
Oh, pardon me?! You said the terrorist issue is not a religion issue? so now what? terrorist become a political issue again? Same question again, then why use allah name? does it prove that islam is very good tool for moslem politician? does it prove that the theory of islam is not a “problem”, but it is a good “tool”?
I can tell you, most people included me think islam is not a “problem”, but it is a very good “tool” to create problem.
Let me hear some comment from you, i hope next reply will not disappoint me. Of cox, you can say my reply also disappoint you, but you must know you are the editor, not me.
Last word, all i want is facts….
EXTRA DISCUSSION
I found one interesting article
http://famousmuslims.muslimonline.org/index.php/Military-Leaders/Zheng-He-Cheng-Ho.html
Here i want to say, cheng ho is chinese, he is borned from china, he is not a terrorist.
Do moslem is a race?
Regarding this mater, I can suggest next time your moslem can just say,
1) moslem help to build US, or
2) moslem help to build United Kingdom, or
3) moslem help to build australia, or
4) moslem help to build India,
because now, many country got moslem that are very successful. You can tell your moslem brother to collect the history which have great people that are moslem, then write a history book name it:-
———–The Great People of Islam————
Wow, sound great right?! Think about my idea, all you need to do is dont write any word about the race, just always use the word — moslem. Just like the above article:
“…moslem help to build china…..”
like that, then no one know about the race. Oh, maybe cheng ho got a moslem name?! Oh! The editor of the article make a great, he should find the cheng ho moslem name, maybe abdullah what… then no one know cheng ho is from what race.
Anywhere, all people words included me cannot change one thing
…….is the truth
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To editor,
This reply is for some information regarding you said other people always wrote something bad about malay.
I really confuse about what you said, what i understand is you always mix with islam issue with malay issue, do malay is moslem? or moslem is malay? or like my question: moslem is a race?
Sometime people angry is not because malay, is because the politician. Of cox, most great power politician in malaysia is malay, and UMNO is malay, and malay is UMNO, UMNO train bad malay. Do you a good malay? but based on your reply, i already know the answer.
I dont say U.S. dont have bad people, china dont have bad people, or india dont have bad people. Like some stupid malay said, which country do you found dont have corruption?! what a stupid question! just like you can ask which country dont have bad guy?! Is this the main reason that malaysia can have corruption? I dont say dont have any politician dont have corruption, any person become president also will have corruption, but the problem is how far the corruption can go.
Maybe, maybe you are from UMNO, or your family is from UMNO. But you already told me, you are not supporting UMNO, then i believe you.
Maybe you also misunderstand of some people, sometime people not support UMNO and support PAS doesnt mean they 100% disagree or 100% agree. All people want is fair and no corruption if can. Fair doesnt mean will decrease malay benefit. I found politician like to use malay benefit as a tool. Chinese in malaysia paid 60% tax. Which race is more benefit now? I dont focus on race, i focus on umno.
Here, actually you already told me you dont like political issue, but why you open this topic? You found a blogs that you claims is anti-islam or anti-malay, that only your own personal opinion. After i review the blogs, i found that one blog is focus on political, and another one is focus on islam. You putting 2 blogs and claim one statement “Anti-islam? Anti-Malay?” You didnt specify which blog is focus on islam issue, and which one is focus on malay issue. This is not fair to blog editor.
The blog focus on “islam”, it did not say is “malay and islam”. Please dont manipulate the blog in wrong way. Next time please separate the topic. Of cox, its your blog, you can say anything you want, and just like other….
Your article just like “brain washing” course, misleading your brother and sister to the wrong way. Just like your al-quran, only smart people can understand and apply in the right way, stupid people will follow the wrong path…
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ramzwatcher Reply:
July 29th, 2008 at 11:48 am
well, my first priority is Islam. Yeah, maybe i have mixed malay with islam, its because the environment i think.
1. islam
2. islam
3. malay
Islam is my priority and race issues have been a very confusing and always be an issues. Malay itself is categories as mongolian and mostly come from india. so we will find a different versions of Malays, described by different people.
but islam mainly have the same issues as it have only one reason, to Worship Allah SWT. It doesn’t care your race, where you from, how you look likes, your colour of skins etc.
well i’m sorry if im confusing my readers, as this article was wrote last 2 years and issues of the malay and other races is not popular like now.
I will revise the article again later on, if it happen to confuse my readers. But when you insult al-quran, i don’t think its a good way.
Its not to be brilliant. Most of the religion teachers don’t have degree or php or what ever you measure about it, but you need heart and be true with yourself when you learn about al-quran. Open your heart :)
p.s: i’ll will sharing about how and why people converts to Muslim later on
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Freedom Reply:
August 5th, 2008 at 6:20 pm
Sorry for late reply,
Found one video in youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vx7a8pCTeN4
Orginal title for this video:
Keganasan PAS di Kuala Terengganu Batu Burok
Two other possibilities title for this video:
1) Keganasan MOSLEM di Kuala Terengganu Batu Burok?
2) Keganasan MALAY di Kuala Terengganu Batu Burok?
Explain:
1) People that making trouble in the video are moslem?
2) People that making trouble in the video are malay?
After you explain all kind of reason to me about your islam, you still a realistic person and a liar to your god. Forgive me to say that.
Would you accept the 2 possibility title above that i put? I guest you will not, or you are not brave enough accept it.
Be realistic man…
All human have good and bad, but to nature, all human are bad….
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ramzwatcher Reply:
August 5th, 2008 at 7:33 pm
Dear Mr Freedom, (could you please gimme ur name, its better I think ;) )
Yeah, I do agree with the title and it does happen. I admit it. But why islam to be blame?
Let say if someone have kill the other, does it related to his religion? The religion told to be calm and stay in peace, but the members still killing other, whose to be blame?
The religion should not be blame. That person, that personal should be blame. Its his/her own decision.
So i Admit it happen, but i don’t agree its related to Islam.
I AM MALAYSIAN AND MUSLIM. I WENT TO CATHOLIC SCHOOL. NOT MUCH DIFFERENT BETWEEN THEM. THEY CHANGED BIBLE CONTENT. THERE’S NO OTHER TRUE GOD EXCEPT ALLAH! i watched tv about ‘who is d real jesus’ but they cudnt find out about it. im impressed. like dad said ‘ALLAH KNOWS BETTER’…..its EVERYTHING in Al-Quran. we NEVER insult ur religion. “MY RELIGION IS MINE, YOUR RELIGION IS URS”
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Perbezaan terbesar antara Kristian (Katolik), Islam dan Jews :
Dalam proses pengajaran kristian (Katolik), kami tida pernah sesekali diajar untuk membenci agama lain tetapi menerima mereka sebagai insan yang juga mempunyai fahaman. Dalam khutbah, ceramah, pengajaran dan lain-lain, tidak pernah sesekali umat Katolik diprovok untuk membenci agama lain, malah tidak pernah perbandingan dibuat diantara agama.
Saya lahir dalam keluarga Kristian Katolik, penganut yang setia. Kami, tidak pernah membenci Islam mahupun Jews, tidak pernah berniat mahupun berfikiran ke arah membenci agama lain.
Agama merupakan intipati diri yang menjadikan kita kuat untuk berhadapan dengan dugaan dunia, bukan alasan untuk bertelingkah.
Saya pernah melalui keadaan dimana masyarakat dipaksa untuk memeluk agama islam. Saya tidak ingin bercerita mengenai hal ini, kerana pengalaman hitam perlu diabaikan.
Manusia didunia semakin berani apabila masing-masing telah pandai untuk menilai orang lain. Nilailah diri sendiri. Tidak ada seorang manusia pun yang sempurna.
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adie Reply:
January 22nd, 2009 at 4:20 pm
jika ada muslim memaksa untuk memeluk agama seperti yang u cakapkan, maka mereka melakukan dosa besar dan akan menjadi musuh muhammad karena sama saja menganggu dan menyakiti mereka yang dipaksa, sebab muhammad sendiri bersabda “barang siapa yang menganggu non muslim yang berdamai dengan muslim ia menjadi musuh ku, dan barang siapa yang menyakitinya, diakhirat (hari akhir) ia akan berhadapan dengan ku” riwayat dari ibnu ma’zuud,muhammad sendiri yang berkata demikian, jadi mereka yang memaksa seperti yang u cakap biarlah mendapat dosa dan menjadi musuh muhammad, tak pula islam mengajarkan untuk memaksa orang menjadi pemeluknya, Al qur’an sendiri yang mengatakan :
“Tidak ada paksaan untuk (memasuki) agama (Islam); sesungguhnya telah jelas jalan yang benar daripada jalan yang sesat. Karena itu barangsiapa yang ingkar kepada Thaghut dan beriman kepada Allah, maka sesungguhnya ia telah berpegang kepada buhul tali yang amat kuat yang tidak akan putus. Dan Allah Maha Mendengar lagi Maha Mengetahui. (QS 2 : 256) ,
jadi biarkanlah mereka yang menanggung dosa, Al qur’an adalah pelajaran yang berisi segala petunjuk saint n yang laen, sebagai peringatan, dan juga Tanda-tanda adanya Tuhan yang benar yang 1 tidak perlu sekutu’ agama islam tidak salah tetapi orang2na sendiri yang salah, jadi ajaran islam jangan disalahkan, salahkan saja orang2 yang tak patuh terhadap islam sekali lagi jangan menyalahkan ajaran islamna jelas merekalah yang kurang paham akan islamna sampai memaksa orang lain, “merekalah yang salah”,
adanya ilmu perbandingan karena ada pertanyaan2 kenapa begini-kenapa begitu dalam agama yang kita peluk, sebab sangatlah penting ilmu perbandingan itu, karena agama suatu pegangan bagi pribadi seluruh umat, benarkah agama itu atau tidak, agama manakah dari banyak agama yang paling benar, karena tuhan hanya ada 1, tak mungkin Tuhan banyak ,jika Tuhan banyak tentulah Tuhan-tuhan itu akan berperang sendiri..dan bisa kemungkinan Tuhan yang satunya melenyapkan bumi yang diduduki manusia agama lain, Tuhan hanya 1″ begantung kepada Nya segala sesuatu, tidak beranak dan tidak pula diperanak kan, dan tidak ada sesuatupun yang setara dengan Dia”
Sesungguhnya Tuhanmu, Dia-lah Yang Paling Mengetahui siapa yang sesat dari jalan-Nya; dan Dia-lah Yang Paling Mengetahui orang-orang yang mendapat petunjuk.(Qs.68 : 7)
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Saya pun tak pasti kenapa banyak non muslims di luar sana yang cakap bukan2 pasal islam (macam anjing menyalak ke bukit, bukit tu steady jee..anjing sakit tekak), tapi hari2 ribu2 orang convert to islam. Islam covers every aspect of human life; fqah, tauhid, adat2, perkahwinan, rezeki, harta pusaka, ekonomi & perbankan islam etc, semuanya teratur dan lengkap from A-Z. AL-Quran pun tak pernah berubah teks & kandungannya dari masa diturunkan hingga ke hari ini (sebab ini janji Allah), tak macam agama2 lain – berterabur (entah berapa banyak version daa..ubah ikut nafsu). Islam, too good & perfect to be untrue.
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All of us should only submit to only one GOD ie ALLAH
Why are we here? The answer in http://submission.org
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Salam kepada semua penganut Islam.
Kepada bukan Islam, moga tuhan memberi hidayah kepada kalian.
Kepada penentang Islam, moga tuhan melaknati kalian.
Orang-orang kafir ni memang terlalu kurang ajar. Semuanya berani dalam blog/internet sahaja. Maka tidak perlulah dilayan ahli-ahli neraka ni. Biarlah tuhan sahaja yang menentukan nasib mereka. Kalau betul depa ni anak jantan, beranilah bersemuka. Setakat dalam alam maya apa gunanya. Tetapkan tarikh, masa dan tempat dimana boleh bersua. Tetapi sudah diketahui kesemua kafirin ni bacul belaka. Takkan berani punya.
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Infidel the Great Reply:
January 21st, 2009 at 2:58 pm
hahaha, tiada orang bukan islam bodoh sangat nak debat islam dengan muslim secara sua muka. pasal muslim cakap ‘islam pantang dicabar!’ then habis cerita tak boleh cakap lagi! islam menang! hahaha…. silap silap nanti kepala kena pancung!
Kafir memang kurang ajar, pasal ‘kurang di-ajar agama ganas, the islam’…… muslim ada kena ajar, saya sekarang nak ajar u lah! dengar tak budak?
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adie Reply:
January 22nd, 2009 at 3:44 pm
Infidel the Great what u said??
saya indonesia, klo gag teu tentang muslim jangan cakap2 tentang muslim, jika ada perdebatan antara non muslim n moslem ini suatu jalan yang tepat untuk mengatakan kebenaran tentang muslim karena fitnah zionis mengecam kami, dengan jalan dilaog/debat very2 gentle, tak pake sembunyi2 pula.., muslim tak sekejam cakap u liat kafir dipancung, itu hanya berlaku ketika muslim diperangi atau ketika masa masa perang sahaja,bukan tiap2 liat kafir melakukan pancung, baca pahami konteks urutan ayat tentang perang dan riwayatna, nak fitnah juga u,tong kosong sekali
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Infidel the Great Reply:
January 23rd, 2009 at 2:36 pm
hi adie,
you bukan malaysian u tak tahu, macam mana u tahu saya tak tahu islam? u tak tahu tentang saya u jangan cakap pasal saya. itukah logik anda?
adie cakap:
jika ada perdebatan antara non muslim n moslem ini suatu jalan yang tepat untuk mengatakan kebenaran tentang muslim karena fitnah zionis mengecam kami, dengan jalan dilaog/debat very2 gentle, tak pake sembunyi2 pula..,
sayangnya ini tiday berlaku di malaysia… cuba lihat apa yang berlaku keatas BAR COUNCIL…
cuba lihat apa yang berlaku masa 1997 di indonesia, masa itu kegawatan ekonomi, nak turunkan suharto, tapi, berapa banyak orang kafir dipancung? berapa perempuan kafir dirogol and dibunuh? berapa kedai, kereta dibakar? itu namanya perang??? perang dengan siapa? kenapa muslim suka cemburu sama kafir yang kebanyakan lebih berjaya, lebih kaya? kenapa muslim tidak mengubah cara hidup kepada kemodenan daripada kejahilan? saya tidak bermaksud kamu, saya percaya kamu tidak pernah membunuh, saya cuma menujukan cakap-cakap saya kepada syaitan-syaitan yang terlibat!!!
After over two years, this post is still up and still bringing traffic to my humble lil’ site! This kafir is mighty grateful for this blog, and to its owner. Thanks so much for all the traffic that’s come from it over to Pedestrian Infide1. I really appreciate it! You get an ironic tip of my hat!
Anyways, back to my Danish beer and Dutch cookies. Keep up the good work…shalom all!
Cordially,
Anti Jihadist
the anti jihadists last blog post..Another terrorist group picks up Malaysian support
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Blog antijihad tu memang melampau.
Mari kita ramai2 ‘FLAG’kan blog tersebut –>>> http://pedestrianinfidel.blogspot.com/...
Sambil itu, kita harus bersabar dan masing2 memupuk kesatuan sesama Muslim.
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Oh goodness, did I make someone mad? Why do mere people have to ‘flag’ my site? Can’t your allah just take care of the dirty work for you? ;)
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please why??
larss last blog post..Lovers Have Green Eyes (and Jewish Law)
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pls dont be stupid ok…
yahudi and kristian suck…
just want destroyed ISlAM…
i hate yahudi more kristian…
what happen with iraq..mostly islam…
why yahudi kill islam people????…
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can we all chill out abit? malaysia is a multi-race country, pls do not label us all as “terrorist”
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I believe that some of the Bible content are the word of God. I believe that the content of Torah are the word of God. I truly believe that the verses in the Quran are the word of God. But I also believe that what the God meant in the Bible and Torah was Islam. That’s why the word ‘Christianity’ was not mentioned in the Bible and the word ‘Judaism’ was not also mentioned in the Torah. Think…think….think………
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But the word ‘Islam’ was mentioned many times in the Quran…..Think…think…think………
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1 million reasons to reject Islam
1. The name ‘Islam’ sound stupid, blasphemy, outdated, intollerent, terrorism, unfair, rasicm…
2. I want to be fren with infidels (muslim cant be fren with infidels)
3. i don wan to honour the pedophile, murderer, pirates, liar…
4. spaceman already been to moon and proof that there is no Moon God on the moon
5. i don believe in a liar that claimed that he can split the moon
6. i don wan to be false muslim like many do becos they don follow the real teaching, such as they never killing kafirs, married 4 women, beat your wife if they don listen to you…
7. i don wan to pray 5 times a day becos i think it is a waste of time
8. i don wan to kiss the women god, the pussy look alike black stone.
9. i wan to make this world a paradise with wine flow like rivers and more than 72 virgins accompany me if i willing to pay
10. i don wan to puasa but after buka puasa eating more than any other normal day
11. i don wan to wear the funny white hat
12. i don wan to close my intelligent by always answering ‘only allah knows why’, ‘allah know the best’
13. i don wan to reject science by believing earth is flat, stars are missiles to shoot at jinns, moon and sun floot around the earth, mountains are pegs, sun set in muddy spring, different water never mix, splitting the moon, human made from mud, sperm come from somewhere between backbone and ribs, bla bla bla…
14. i don wan to get confuse by the contradiction occur 1000++ times in al-quran
15. i wan to eat pork cos they are tasty
16. i don wan to insult animal (muslim always insult dog, pig)
17. i don wan to be kill if someday i wan to convert away from islam
18. i believe in ‘God is prinsiple underlying all things’
19. i believe in ‘golden rule’
20. i believe in ‘doubt everything, find you own light’
the rest 999980 reasons i will continue asap…
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PAKE BAHASA MELAYU saHAja biar MEREKA YANG GAG NGERTI ENGLISH BISA PAHAM..
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One million reasons reject kafir forever
1. The word kafirForever sounds even more stupid…..
2. Who says muslim can’t be friends with the infidels? Only ignorant said that.
3. Whose the pedophile, murderer, pirate, liar? can be anybody…and that includes you…
4. Islam never say that there’s a moon god. Who told you that? Another infidels?
5. He did not split the moon (now you sound stupid). The god did it.
6. If you don’t want to be false muslim, get the true one because infidels are the followers of true evil.
7. 25 minutes a day is not a waste of time, but the evil in you worries too much about that 25 minutes.
8. I’am a true muslim, but I never heard about the what so call women god. That’s why you turned to infidel, you heard to much rumours.
9. Now I know why you turned infidels, you like wine very much, wine is the root of evil!!
10. I puasa every ramadhan. But I never eat more than any other normal day and I stayed fit for 52 years.
11. I never wear funny white hat. I only wear what I like, no one forced me.
12. I have a degree in Physics and my intelligence is still growing, but I still say “Allah the almighty knows best”. Is it because you prefer to say evil knows best?
13. Islam never say the earth is flat and all the nonsense you mentioned!! Read the quran..and don’t believe the silly translation. To be continued..
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let me continue now..
14. There is no contradiction whatsoever in the quran, only some christians said that. But more and more prominent western scientists admit that there are many newly discovered scientific phenomenon was already stated in the quran over 14 centuries ago.
15. I don’t want to comment on this, but I believe that your small intestine must have been used by Taenia Solium to complete their life cycle (many prominent scientists quit eating pork because of this)!!
16. If Islam insults animal, so do christianity & judaism if they realy follow the old testament.
17. If you were once a muslim, now an infidel and very much alive, why worry….
18. You have a totally wrong definition for god. What a pity.
19. Your golden rule is actually ‘evil rule’.
20. If you doubt everything, you should have doubt your own light too.
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I had wrote a refutation for you but sadly it gone…
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Kafir4ever Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 3:31 am
testing
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Kafir4ever Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 3:35 am
testing2
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Kafir4ever Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 3:38 am
test3
1. yes correct, the word kafir (arabic/islamic word) is the most stupid word, islam the second stupid.
2. your fren said so: 3:118 O ye who believe! Take not for intimates others than your own folk, who would spare no pains to ruin you; they love to hamper you. Hatred is revealed by (the utterance of) their mouths, but that which their breasts hide is greater. We have made plain for you the revelations if ye will understand. 4:144 O ye who believe! Choose not disbelievers for (your) friends in place of believers. Would ye give Allah a clear warrant against you ? 5:51 O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. He among you who taketh them for friends is (one) of them. Lo! Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk.——–who was ignorant???
3. yeah, can be anybody, drug addicts, conman, madman, the muhammad, al-kaedah, terrorist, hamas…
4. it is very common muslim never know the real history of the islam. check it out
http://www.faithfreedom.org/2009/01/21/was-allah-the-moon-god-of-ancient-arab-pagan/
5. yeah yeah, god split the moon? show me one scientific evidence this ever happen.
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Kafir4ever Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 3:36 am
6. infidels (i mean me) don follow to anyone.
7. i never worried cos i don pray.
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Kafir4ever Reply:
February 2nd, 2009 at 3:41 am
8. rumours? check it out at youtube, type moon god kaabah
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9. wat’s wrong to drink a glass of wine during dinner? wat’s wrong to drink a glass of beer during hot days? it will only become bad when ppl abuse/mis-use/over-dost. eating is nessesary to everybody, what happen if a person over eating? or over sleeping? over sex activities? over exercise? should islam ban all these???
wine is just a material without life, can it be evil? knife, axe, gun, your hand, all can be use to kill ppl, are they evil as well???
12. i don say ‘evil knows best’, don put your words into my mouth. i don care wat degree u have, your intelligent is wat u had show me so far… ignorant
13. i had read it. y don you do a research on your quran and hadiths?
14. show me one example of scientific miracle in quran.
http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/contra/by_name.html
15. show me scientific evidence pork is the most dirty meat of all
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February 2nd, 2009 at 8:38 am
16. whoever insult animals are coward cos animal cant fight back.
17. insyallah i never was muslim. i only feel sad for those who wish to leave islam but… u know….
18. tell me your defination of god pls. check it out! good for u…
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina/single_principle.htm
19. do u actually know wat is golden rule? ‘don to to others things u don wan others to do the same to u’ that sounds evil??? oh sorry, i forgot u are a muslim. muslims are intollerent anyway
20. yeah! correct! doubt everything. this is the way of life. continue to live, to learn, to search, to doubt, and never believe in something ppl told u, without proof, without evidence, without reasons, without common sense… read more my frens… may allah bless u…
verses from muhammad asking muslim to stop questioning… 2:108 Or would ye question your messenger as Moses was questioned aforetime ? He who chooseth disbelief instead of faith, verily he hath gone astray from a plain road.
additional question: do u know who was al-lat, al-uzza and manat?
53:19 Have ye thought upon Al-Lat and Al-’Uzza
53:20 And Manat, the third, the other ?
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1. Kafir is an arab word specially for people like you. If it is the most stupid word, then you are the most stupid person, thatâs why you used it as your name. Try to understand this, if you canâŚ
2. Those verses you gave was clearly the translated verses from the Quran, but not in the original form (I mean arabic). So thatâs the problem. This is because the word âAwliyaâ in in arabic has several meanings. It can be translated as âsupporterâ and âpatronâ. The correct translation should be like the one shown below;
Surah 3:118 O ye who believe! take not to intimacy with others than yourselves; they will not fail to spoil you; they would fain ye came to trouble,- hatred is shown by their mouths; but what their breasts conceal is greater still. We have made manifest to you our signs, did ye but understand.
Surah 4:144 O ye who believe! take not misbelievers for patrons rather than believers; do ye wish to make for God a power against you?
Surah 5:51 O ye who believe! take not the Jews and Christians for your patrons : they are patrons of each other; but whoso amongst you takes them for patrons, verily, he is of them, and, verily, God guides not an unjust people.
Read more; http://answering-christianity.com/bassam_zawadi/friends.htm
3. Yeah, can be anybody, infidels, non believers, confused peoples, drug addicts conman, madmanâŚ. Sometimes you sound like anti muslim christians, and sometimes you sound like jews. No matter which side you are in, you used âkafirâ (most stupid word) as your name.
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4. Muslims donât know anything about the moon god, you moron!! What the stupid writer meant was that the moon god mentioned in that stupid article maybe {just MAYBE, [thatâs why they (the stupid writer) put the â?â mark on the title]}what the muslims worship. That is pure speculation by anti muslim christians, because moon god was one of the gods of the PAGAN arabs BEFORE ISLAM came. Conclusion; the moon god is the history of the pagan arabs (before Muhammad PBUH was borned and before he was 40), not the history of Islam (Muhammad began to preach about Islam at the age of 40). But I can still tolerate, because its only a confusion/ignorance (infidels are confused/ignorant peoples anyway). If you realy want to know about the history of Islam, read from the islamic sources and not from the corrupt christian and zionist sources, because they donât know anything about Islam.
5. Go to the above web site especially the photo (fault line).
http://www.answering-christianity.com/moon_split.htm
6. Muslims too donât follow anyone, we only submit ourselves to Allah (God is not someone) because God is unique and incomparable.
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7. You dont pray for sure, thatâs because you worry too much about that 25 minutes.
8. My answer is the same as no. 4. Only moron like you believe that women god is the god of the muslims (they were the gods of the pagan arab and were destroyed by Muhammad PBUH and his companions). What type of research did you do? You only went to the anti muslim websites (All the writers were just morons like you are). Thatâs why I called it rumours. Donât hesitate to go to the Islam website. Youâre not a christian, do you? (so why do you have to believe them?). If you learned from confused people (I mean spiritually), youâre bound to get confused even more. Understand now?
9. Over eating? Over sleeping?, Over sex and over exercise? Knife? Axe? Gun? My hands? Are any of these activities/things affect your brain? No!! theyâre not!!! Yes!! Wine is material without life, but it affects our brain. Islam cares very much on human brain but not the evil because evils want to destroy it (so human cannot control themselves mentally), thatâs why we called it the root of evil, not the evil itself. God knows what alcohol (ethanol) do to your brain. Remember!! The tapeworm (Taenia Solium) thatâs found in pork meat can affect the brain too. Read, read and readâŚâŚ.http://eands.caltech.edu/articles/LXVI4/brainworms.html
10. ???
11. ???
12. Infidels are followers of evil. It is as simple as that. And what have you shown me so far? Intelligence? Ha ha ha
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IslamForever Reply:
February 8th, 2009 at 7:38 am
correction;
http://eands.caltech.edu/articles/LXVI4/brainworms.html
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13. What you read was just silly translation, didnât I tell you that? Still need further explanation? Just click the links below;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZddTe8gB6TU
http://www.answering-christianity.com/earth_in_islam.htm
http://www.islamicvoice.com/september.2000/religion.htm
14. There are a lot of scientific miracle in the quran, if you could just open your mind a bit;
http://www.islam-guide.com/frm-ch1-1-a.htm
http://www.islam-guide.com/frm-ch1-4.htm
http://www.whyislam.org/ModernScience/TheAmazingQuran/tabid/90/Default.aspx
Those listed above are some of the miracles. You can search more if you want. More will be discovered due to advancement of science nowadays.
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15. Pork is not the dirtiest meat of all, I never said that, did I?. Please donât tell the whole world all your stupidity and ignorance. Just keep it to yourself. There must be a specific reason why Allah forbids muslim from eating it, please check:
http://www.medindia.net/patients/patientinfo/tapeworm_pork.htm
http://eands.caltech.edu/articles/LXVI4/brainworms.html
http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dpd/parasites/cysticercosis/factsht_cysticercosis.htm
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16. Islam never insult animals!! We dare not touch them, why fight back? For not touching them? Do you fight people who donât even have the gut to touch you? What a great thinking you have here, the infidel type of thinkingâŚ
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17. I feel sad too for those who wish to leave Islam after being born muslim and as a result they will be among those have lost (in the hereafter). But anyway, Islam is still the fastest growing religion in the world nowadays, not only because of the high birth rate but due to those who converted from Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism and also Hinduism. (eg: http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/456/ ) and many more.
http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/102/
http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/78/
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more…
http://www.jews-for-allah.org/Jewish-Converts-to-Islam/Yousef-al-Khatab.htm
18. Muslims believe in one, unique, incomparable God, Who has no son nor partner, and that none has the right to be worshipped but Him alone. He is the true God, and every other deity is false. He has the most magnificent names and sublime perfect attributes. No one shares His divinity, nor His attributes. God alone is the Almighty, the Creator, the Sovereign, and the Sustainer of everything in the whole universe. He manages all affairs. He stands in need of none of His creatures, and all His creatures depend on Him for all that they need. He is the All-Hearing, the All-Seeing, and the All-Knowing. In a perfect manner, His knowledge encompasses all things, the open and the secret, and the public and the private. He knows what has happened, what will happen, and how it will happen. No affair occurs in the whole world except by His will. Whatever He wills is, and whatever He does not will is not and will never be. His will is above the will of all the creatures. He has power over all things, and He is able to do everything. He is the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful, and the Most Beneficent.
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19. So you think I donât know whatâs a golden rule is? Hereâs the problem, the actual golden rule is different from YOUR golden rule (evil one), thatâs why you touched my religion and got furious when I retaliate. Is that your golden rule??? Ooops, sorry, I forgot youâre an infidel. Infidels are confused, ignorant and arrogant anyway.
20. Yeah! Doubt everything eh? Thatâs why you got so confused!!. Luckily god lets you continue to live to search for the truth (hopefully). To find proof, to find evidence, to find reasons. Thereâs proof, evidence and reasons in Islam if you could only find the authentic source of knowledge (of course not from corrupt anti Islam/zionist source of Islamic knowledge). Search further my friend. May Allah bless you tooâŚ
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21. This is my answer about Al âUzza; Al Laat and Al Manaat (in case you donât really know, because from what I see, you only use corrupt sources of Islamic knowledge)
Al Imaam Muslim, may Allaah have mercy on him, narrated in his authentic book that ‘Amr Ibn Abassah said: “I said to the messenger sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam: With what did Allah send you? He said: “Strengthening kindship and breaking idols and that no one is worshiped but Allah, with no partners”.
In another authentic Hadeeth, Abu Al-Hayyaaj, may Allah be pleased with him, said that ‘Ali may Allah be pleased with him, said: “Should I send you with what the messenger sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam sent me with? (To) not keep any idol, but to demolish it and any grave, raised above the ground, but to level it”.
In another narration in the book of Al Imaam Ahmad he said: “To demolish all idols” and in another narration: “To tarnish all idols”, and He sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam did this himself with his hands as mentioned in the book of Imaam Muslim and Bukhaari. When the Prophet sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam conquered Makkah, there were 360 idols around the Kaâbah. He then started smashing and crushing the idols with his bow and reciting the verse, which means: “And say truth has come and falsehood has departed, indeed falsehood is ever bound to depart” (Al Israaâ: 81). Allaah says which means: “Say the truth has come and falsehood can neither begin nor repeat”(Sabaâ: 49) meaning, can neither begin anything nor repeat it, i.e. it is abolished, and the idols started falling on their faces.
The Prophet sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam tore a rug that had pictures on it until he destroyed it.(Bukhaari) Moreover, the Prophet sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam sent brigades to different parts of the peninsula on missions to break idols. He sent a brigade under the leadership of Khaalid Ibn Waleed, may Allah be please be pleased with him, to destroy Al ‘Uzza, which was an idol, that Quraish use to glorify. Therefore, he broke it and destroyed it. He sent another brigade to break Manaat. He sent a brigade under the leadership of Amr Ibn Al’aas, may Allah be pleased with him, to Suwaa’, the idol of Huthayl. ‘Amr, may Allah be pleased with him, broke it with his hand. He sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam sent also ‘Ali Abi Taalib to the idol of Taa’if that was called Al Fuls and that was an idol engraved in one of the mountains of that tribe. He sent another unit to demolish Al Laat. These three idols Al ‘Uzza, Al Laat, Al Manaat, were the greatest and most important idols for the Arabs (pagan arabs and which is not the Islamised arab) at that time.
Allah says which means: “So have you considered Al Laat, and Al-’Uzza and Manaat the other third” (An-Najm: 19-20). It did not concern the Prophet sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam that the Arabs would gather against him. He destroyed and demolished all of them, and did not leave any traces of them.
I have no question to ask. And if I do, you wont be able to answer it correctly as your source of knowledge is corrupt…
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The anti Islam Christians only put verses 19 & 20 in the article that you read. Let me give you the five verses that follows (verses 21, 22, 23, 24 and 25) to make it clear that Al-’Uzza, Al-Manaat and Al-Laat are not the gods of the muslims but the gods of the pagan arabs (before islam);
53:19 Have you then considered Al-Lât, and Al-’Uzza (two idols of the pagan Arabs)
53:20 And Manât (another idol of the pagan Arabs), the other third?
53:21 Is it for you the males and for Him the females?
53:22 That indeed is a division most unfair!
53:23 They are but names which you have named â you and your fathers â for which Allâh has sent down no authority. They follow but a guess and that which they themselves desire, whereas there has surely come to them the Guidance from their Lord!
53:24 Or shall man have what he wishes?
53:25 But to Allâh belongs the last (Hereafter) and the first (the world).
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Allah sent the above verses specially for the pagan arabs (not for the muslims).
The anti Islam Christians put those verses specially for the non muslim so that they will think that Islam is not a monotheistic religion (prevent any possible conversion).
Any muslim that read the article can easily tell the hoax.
More to come in future. May god bless you……
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1. hahaha.. if that’s makes you happy… it has no effect on me.
2. Surah 5:51 O ye who believe! take not the Jews and Christians for your patrons : they are patrons of each other; but whoso amongst you takes them for patrons, verily, he is of them, and, verily, God guides not an unjust people.
no matter how u twist the translation, it’s still intollerent at all. how can god judging that someone who takes unbelievers as friend/companion/patron/supporter/customer will become one of them and allah hate them so much and called them dumb and deft? somemore call them unjust people??? who is unjust???
3. haha, gotcha!!!
4. muslim don’t know anything about the moon god? who is ignorant here??? but actually, not all don’t know about it. many mullahs know it but they will keep silence. ofcos now-a-day muslim never pray to moon anymore, but the fact is, the allah is was not exclusively brought out by muhammad, allah was transformed from al-ilah.
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muhammad’s father’s name was abdullah. abdullah mean ‘slave of allah’, you see!!!! before muhammad was born, his father already was the slave of allah, how can muhammad was the 1st to call the god as allah???
5. LIE
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina40928p14.htm
6. you said muslim don’t follow anyone? let me tell you, muslim follow muhammad, follow his teaching from the so-called quran, (ofcos not all of his teaching, but selectively because not all muslims are crazy). in fact allah was just his own imaginary deity, nothing special…
8. no. muhammad never destroy the women god, the black stone is still there in the kaabah. in fact, nothing muhammad had done to destroy the pagan believes, muslim still spray towards kaabah, pray 5 times a day, haji, ramadhan, stonning, the walk… all were originated from pagan believes… nothing’s new… i’m not confuse, i’m very sure of wat i read. i do read from islamic website as well the facts that they show are outdated and doing acrobatics just like you…
the one that confuse will shift his thought after someone convince him. not me!!!
9. over sleeping wont affect our brain??? it don only make your brain blunt and also make u die younger! over-sex also no effect on your brain? then why we have sex-holic or sex maniac or pedophile??? ofcos muhammad will not band it because he was one of them… and how about cigarrets? it affect not only your brain, but also our liver, lung, heart, nose ect and why islam never band it?
you call the alcohol the root of evil, because after taking alcohol, human cant control his mind. wat kind of logic is this? the evil is in our human mind because we cant control ourself to over drinking, to do chaos after intoxication. the evil in our human mind is affected us in every decision we made. so the root of evil is our human mind, not the alchohol. by banning alchohol, you are cutting the branches, not the trunk and definately not the root…
by eating pork, you get tape worm. eating beef scared of mad cow desease, eating lamb scare of Brucella melitensis, eat seafood scared of arsenic, cholesterol… eating any meat also we scare of cholesterol, fat that will lead to heart desease, stroke, high blood pressure. taking too many sugar will cause diabetes. and we are not advise to eat salted food, preserve food, roasted food… eating vege we scare of pesticide, even plain water is not save to drink, and the air that we breath is also poluted. wat else is left for us???
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18. only gives the 1001 names of your god, bla bla bla, ‘the most merciful’ hahaha…. lie… but u never explain scientifically wat god is. read at wat einstein, the most clever man ever said about god, you will know your explaination is just for kids
http://www.spaceandmotion.com/albert-einstein-god-religion-theology.htm
19. so tell me wat is your golden rule (if u have one)… i’m not touching YOUR religion because religion don belongs to anybody. i only touch to islam, and only those who are furious/angry/suprise/shock will respond to me. u r calling me moron, stupid, ignorant, confused, arrogant and using ad hominen during arguing (common strategy use by muslim) but it wont affect me at all becos i had been debating for a long time and i had received hundreds of humiliation and threads. it only shows how furious u r.
20. doubt is not equal to confused my fren. scientist doubt on the something but they are not confused. they are very sure on wat they are doubting it. and they will find the solution to proof his/her doubt! many muslim claims that there are evidence and reasons in islam, since i’m ignorant can u pls show me one? and also pls answer my Q14, show me one example of scientific miracle in quran… pls??? does the splitting of moon consider one? than your mission is fail because this had been proven a lie.
if quran is the words from god, it should not have any error. if only one error occurs in quran, it is enough to shows that the quran is fake…
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21. yeah, and allah is also one of them (pagan gods)… see no4 above.
that’s all for today, i don wan to make this debate too long since you cant answer my question at all… and i also promise you i have millions of question to make you scratch your head!
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salam dan hai,
entri ini telah dilaporkan ke suruhanjaya siber malaysia.
kepada anda yg berani mempersoalkan kesucian islam lagi, saya harap dapat memberhentikannya.
To all names that insulted ISLAM, please stop it right now. PLS.
Sudah² lah, jika ada perkataan dari mulut MUSLIM yg menyakitkan hati anda, saya memohon maaf. Kami sayang agama kami.
Sekali lagi, entri ini telah dilaporkan ke SSM.
Wallahu a’lam.
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Thank you….
I will stop it right now.
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